30 Old 30 Young
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Breaking Free: How Solo Travel Transforms Your Relationship With Yourself
May is finally here & we handed the reigns over to one of you guys this month to choose our topic for the month of May!! 🙌🏻
So here it is… solo travelling in your 30’s!
In this first episode, we explore the transformative power of solo travel. From spontaneous road trips to navigating foreign cities alone, solo adventures build confidence, clarity, and a deep connection with yourself. With fewer compromises and more freedom, discover why traveling alone might just be the most empowering journey you'll ever take.
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Hello and welcome to 30 Old, 30 Young, and this is the first episode of a very special first month for us. This is the first listener special month. We put a poll out there I'm sure some of you saw with some ideas about things we could talk about, and we put all the ideas in the hat, pick one out and good old victoria's topic is what we're doing. So if you see victoria walking around all swagged out in 30 or 30 young merch, you know why she's our girl yes but thank you so much to everyone.
Speaker 2:There were so many good ones that were like, oh, should we do this one?
Speaker 2:but please, next time we do a story, like we said, we're not going to do every month, it's just going to be a special month where we let a listener completely take over. So we've got some questions in this episode from victoria herself and she is, like jacob said, the listener of the month, and we're dedicating this one to you, victoria. Thank you so much, and let's get dug in the rest of the month not just this episode, all of the month, yeah, the month of may.
Speaker 1:Lucky, lucky girl, um so Lucky girl. So her topic is what we already said last episode Solo travelling. Yeah, we all know that If you follow our Instagram, solo travelling.
Speaker 2:If you look, have you got it on Instagram. Should we do that again or not?
Speaker 1:No, no, I like it. I like it because I was doing a drum roll and I realised we've already told everyone what it is.
Speaker 2:Three times Instagram last episode, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, so solo travelling. And what do you want to jump into about solo travelling? Is it the myths about it? Is it the eat, pray, love about it? Is it the wild about it? You know what are we going to dive into. I'm going blind in this. This is all you.
Speaker 2:This is all. Victoria, victoria, where are you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on, victoria, you just turned up for the merch and that was it. So what is it? Go on, hit me. Go on, give us a question. Let's just open with a Victoria question. Okay, let's have a look Straight in.
Speaker 2:Okay, so there's been quite a few questions from Victoria. We'll go through them throughout the episode. Maybe, touch on some at the end of this one. Obviously, we've got two main episodes on solo travelling. Do some more questions? We'll sprinkle them through exactly, but first of all, have you done solo traveling before? Let's just before I get into I've had a dabble.
Speaker 1:I've had a little dabble in solo traveling. I don't. I haven't done it in the and I know I sound like I'm taking the piss out of you with the pray love thing.
Speaker 2:I haven't done it you're taking the piss because it's all about I am taking the piss, uh, because yeah not to me, it goes over my head.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's it, but like I have it mine's been more I I did it in the states. So I um went to uni in the states and when I finished with uni I had my car and I just went off and I drove about and I was yeah, I was like I was less, way less neurotic when I was out there. I, you know, when you kind of I wasn't living out my car, but there were just a few more like little risks. You take a few more like if I've got less than half a tank of petrol over here. I started to have a little bit of like a whole fucking hell need to get this sorted out.
Speaker 1:Whereas there I knew that car so well that I knew the miles in there, I knew how long I had left in that tank and I just, it was just just driving around and it was the most. It was my little, it was my and I say little jeep no car in America. Little, it was my jeep and it was the most reliable, unreliable car. It used to run for four hours without any problems, but then it would overheat and you'd have to sit on the side of the road for an hour.
Speaker 2:So every journey you could always.
Speaker 1:You always needed to add an hour, maybe two hours, but um yeah oh god. So I went to uni in indianapolis so I I was smack bang in the midwest so I just went up and down so I went down say what?
Speaker 2:so you literally went out some weekends on your own?
Speaker 1:yeah, I just had a little pop a little pop about uh, did you feel?
Speaker 2:scared, did you enjoy it?
Speaker 1:I didn't feel scared at all did.
Speaker 2:You are lovely it was.
Speaker 1:It was more the budgeting aspect of it, not to go back into the finances, but like it was more like, can I afford to do it? And if not, what I would do is I would drive off. Yeah, and this isn't actually illegal to do in the states, but you can get away with it. Oh god, I, I used to go to rest stops. I used to drive like I used to take off about midnight and then get to a rest stop about you know four o'clock in the morning, after making a big drive down to maybe nashville or something, because that was, um oh sorry, kentucky, uh. So I'd stop off a rest stop outside louisville, have a little nap in my car and then go get to the place in the morning and then four hours on from kentucky is nashville, yeah, and four hours on from there is new orleans. So I was just doing working up and down that route and then I went four hours the other way.
Speaker 1:I was up in chicago and wisconsin, so I used to go up and down that kind of I think it was the I-90, up and down that all the time. I had a right old trip. I absolutely loved it, loved it. Yeah, there's little towns there that I'll always love going back to. And, to be fair, that car is the car that put Brie and I to our first immediate test, because we met and within a month we went to florida together. Yeah, so I met her and a month later, we drove to florida.
Speaker 2:We drove to florida. How many hours?
Speaker 1:12 hours gosh, so I so. So, yeah, yeah, we, luckily I knew I knew someone in nashville, so we stopped there for the night um well, you knew someone in nashville.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I in Nashville a guy I went to school with.
Speaker 1:Uh had moved out there oh my god so he he was in Nashville and, to be fair, I went from not seeing him for ages to from BFFs to seeing him, like yeah, three, four, five times while I was over there and then go to his family house up in um uh, connecticut as well. So I drove everywhere.
Speaker 2:I love America. I'd love to explore more. Just to get I sit on TV at the minute. It's like I feel honestly, I just want to go a bit more. Did you learn anything about yourself? Did you feel like you did?
Speaker 1:I always thought I am quite a codependent person. I do like doing stuff with people. So, like I said, if I'm going to a gym I'm like a gym buddy would be nice to work out with.
Speaker 1:But then I realized also, you can just do it by yourself. Yeah, you can't do it. So I was driving along and this, this car didn't have auxiliary or anything like that, so I was just with the radio. So I kind of learned just to be happy with what was on the radio and skip through and going through the channel, like probably like vintage stuff, like back in the 90s. I was like flicking through and finding a channel and skimming through, not not being like constantly right, I got a podcast on. Right, I've got my this album on the one list too, and like if a song's rubbish I just skip, skip, skip.
Speaker 1:Enjoying the music, listening to like being more in the moment, being more in the moment, just yeah, and it's, it's all. It's all a bit um, romanticized now because you know the the air con didn't work in it and so I'm driving to Florida. This is what I'm saying. This was the big test because it was a 12-hour journey and Brie and I broke down like three times on the way there and we sat on some shit at some services, going to have a Denny's sitting there for two hours while the car cooled down.
Speaker 1:Then it would start up again absolutely fine and carry on, you know, but that was like a true test and it's no aircon, like I said. So we're sweating our balls off me mostly and driving all this way, thinking is it going to be worth it? And bless uh, brie put up with me, taking her to an absolute dump in florida. We stayed at a terrible motel sandwich between a KFC and a Taco Bell.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah literally In Florida.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you went all that way to go there, oh we went to no, because then from there we could go to other places, like it was just a cheap hotel, and then from there we could go visit nice places. So we drove down to the Florida Keys, oh, which is another four hours. So down to the florida keys, which is another four hours. So, but that's it. Like time just became. This is why I don't, americans can never understand it. Like you know, when, let's say, we were having sunday lunch, right, and you were in manchester, so you were just like well, I can't make it. Uh, because I'm in manchester, and american would be like how far away is manchester? And we'd be like about an hour and a half, and they'd be like so why are they not coming? It's like it's a fucking journey that for sunday lunch.
Speaker 1:You're having a laugh, yeah, but you can be in america and you're driving, that's it, in the same place, I remember I used to drive half an hour just for like food, you know, and that used to be like a stat, that used to be one row. Take it right out of my granddad's place, drive half an hour supermarket, drive half an hour back and just one row. And that's the first thing you would see was that supermarket, because it's just there's nothing there.
Speaker 2:I actually so desperately want to go do America just rolls on mate. I just love to do it yeah. I just had a slight touch of it when I went to New York, but I just, yeah, I definitely want to go back.
Speaker 1:I think you've got a different concept of the vastness of america, whereas you, I don't think you would have been able to grapple the like you didn't get a feel of, like the absolute, like the country, landscape, like you can just so here's the question, right, because I had a meeting yesterday.
Speaker 2:Where was I wait? Go right, it's past lincoln near the beach chroma norfolk no, okay, let me go myself. Skgness. No, but it was very flat is that what. America's like quite flat depends where you are. Depends where you are oh, so you do get. Oh, of course, of course you get hills, yeah, yeah, you're gonna have like the Ozarks and the Appalachians.
Speaker 1:You're gonna have lots of mountainous areas there, and then you're. My rule of thumb is the easier a state is to draw, the more flat and boring it is.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:So if you've got a little bit of a squiggle to a state, there's some stuff going on. It's a good bit of coast, a bit of fun, a bit of beach. If it's a big square, okay, usually there's not much happening. It's usually just a lot of fields, a lot of flat, a lot of fields.
Speaker 2:So sorry, just so sorry. Just a sweeping statement for all the americans out there. It's true, though it is true. Yeah, see, some people do struggle to spend time on their own, like I had an ex-boyfriend who surprised me crazily because he obviously um had to go to another country because he was on his own and he hated every minute of it. He hated being on his own. He said it was the worst thing he ever did. He hated, despised it, and I think Wait.
Speaker 1:So he moved from somewhere to come here.
Speaker 2:No, he was going to. I think he was stopping. It was like a. It was in Dubai.
Speaker 2:He was going to go from one place to another and it was like a stop off and he was there on his own for how long? Like two days, three days, what? But hated it, couldn't have hated it. No, oh, what are you talking about? Oh, I can't do it. Hated it, hated it. I know, I think the thing is it's not so much the focus of being traveling overseas. I think you need to sit with yourself in the UK. It's all about becoming your own best friend, because once you crack that, that is a form of self-love and it's just you will be able to do more things. And the thing is as well when people are oh, I'm so scared and I do get it because you don't know when you get off that plane, you don't know what it's going to be like. Don't know when you get off that plane, you don't know what it's going to be like.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, how do I?
Speaker 2:get a taxi. How do I find my way to the hotel? Yeah, and I do get that. I think it's always good to be go back to a country you've been with someone else so you understand about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've got a little bit of knowledge about it, you know what to expect, yeah but you've got to become kind of your own sounding board, because there's so much. I think if you go with someone you could there's always going to be someone relies on the other person more to kind of guide them through, like this is what it's what brie says to me she loves traveling with me, which is good. Yeah, we're married, thank god.
Speaker 1:But, um, because I kind of just kind of take the reins on it and I yeah lead the way and I kind of just like come on, follow me, yeah, and that's what we get, that's what we're going to do she likes. But, however, if she was to be traveling by herself, she knows she by herself. She knows enough about it to be able to get it done herself. But I think there's some people that are so reliant on having a sounding board, someone to play off and someone to be like. Should we?
Speaker 2:be doing.
Speaker 1:This Should we be doing that that they kind of can't make their own decisions and they kind of get a little bit lost and a little bit like what should I be doing while I'm out here?
Speaker 2:They don't know what to do that's the thing, right.
Speaker 1:You can get it done yourself, you can enjoy it yourself, you can make decisions yourself and embrace the whole place yourself.
Speaker 2:You don't need someone there with you I think, even if you're in a relationship, I think there's nothing wrong with saying do you know what? I'm going to go away this weekend, a long weekend, say spain, I don't know anywhere, and just go on your own and like it gives you. So when I've done it solo before, like when I go to italy and stuff, I do enjoy it because it gives me time. I know I'm in the uk and stuff and I get time to sit alone with my thoughts but you're away from work.
Speaker 2:I'm away from work, I'm away from routine and I can just. There's no pressures of work and taking that away means so much and I can just be there in the moment I can reflect. I can just be there in the moment I can reflect, I can just enjoy doing whatever I want. I've got the freedom and it's just lovely. I think that's such a good part of going solo traveling you can live more in the moment. You don't have someone saying, oh, do I have to do this?
Speaker 1:Oh gosh.
Speaker 2:Or I don't want to do that today, or can we wake up at this time time, or let's do this. I want you. Why are you? Why are you going so slow? You, you don't have that when you're alone, you run at your own time, there's no one telling you what to do.
Speaker 1:I remember I was in um, I was in new york, uh, and traveling as a group of four, and one of the guys we were with was, like I really want to go to ellis island, right, I want to go, uh, get the ferry across. And so we went. So we got a taxi, got to ellis island not got to ellis I got to the where the ferry across and so we went. So we got a taxi, got to Ellis Island, not got to Ellis Island, got to the where the ferry port was.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the queue was massive, huge. This place was like, and they were like you're not getting in today. Basically, right, if you want to be here, what you want to do is you want to get here at six in the morning? Yeah, and that's your best shot, because you could pay like these premiums. And we were like we're not that arse, I don't want to pay like hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 1:So I said to him I said because I went off and found out how to do it right and this woman was like well, if you come here, I'll be here tomorrow at six in the morning, see me, I'll get you on this. This lady can get us across Ellis Island early doors. We could be like at the island, no one else would be there. It would be a nice quiet thing we didn't need to be here.
Speaker 2:What happened, did he he?
Speaker 1:was like nah, I'm not that bothered, mate. Actually I was like what's the fucking performance for then? What are we doing here? What was the reason? Like you can't be asked to queue to go, you can't be asked to get up early to go? Can you even be honest with it? Is it just a thing that you, like, think you need to be doing?
Speaker 1:yeah or do you actually want to do it? Yeah, did you just google top 10 things to do in new york and that was one of them and you're like I need to do it see, this is a thing, it gets rid of all this noise.
Speaker 2:Oh god yeah lateral decision.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love lateral decision making where you could just go, I won't do that and you can book it. I fucking can I went.
Speaker 2:I went away with a friend once and it was you know. I was like, oh, we're going to this country, it'd be really nice to do this and the other. And they were like, oh no, don't book it yet. I'm like we gotta book it because then things will get fully booked and then we'll miss out on the opportunity to do it. Then you got someone else. I'm like I want to book it. I don't want to miss out on this thing that I want to do. And when you go solo travel you don't have that worry Again. It cuts out that bit of noise. And I remember there was this one thing. I was like do you know what? I put my foot down on this? And I was like I want to go on a helicopter ride. I knew the helicopter was coming.
Speaker 1:It was on my list. You want to get the Instagram photo?
Speaker 2:It's not even that. I just wanted to do it all.
Speaker 1:No, get it.
Speaker 2:It's a sick photo and like you know, I'll book it later on and I was like, oh okay. And then the grief I got for booking it was unreal, but I'm so glad that I did it Absolutely Fucking and we wouldn't have done it anyway.
Speaker 1:Exactly around new york that we can just walk to right now yeah, which famously you can't do in new york. You need to book things ahead of time because you've got places that get booked out six months in advance isn't it? Yeah, you know come on, you've got to plan ahead for some of these things, and but the problem is you will have people that don't like doing that.
Speaker 2:They're like hey man let's just kind of like just turn up and see where it takes it it's like or and I'm I I get it.
Speaker 1:I don't want to go on a holiday where it's like today we're doing this and then this, and then this and then this. But if you have a few little good things sprinkled in and the rest of it can be for your free. You know, manana, whenever things happen, they happen, man.
Speaker 2:See, I just, I just like to go on the best bit about doing solo traveling you've got your own timelines. You can go to the places you want to see. You don't worry about someone saying I don't want to do it, I'm going to be bored, cuts that out and you've just got. You can just be at peace because you've got. You're not worrying about if someone else is enjoying it or not and the pressures of it. You can just go and do what you want and you can sit in the moment. If you want to go to an expensive restaurant, you can, and that's another thing. Sometimes people would want to go to a country and someone else won't want to do it. But why would you not visit that country? That's a beauty.
Speaker 1:Another thing about solo travelling just fucking go, fuck them off, go because say okay, say you want to go to, you want to go to Thailand yeah and you want to go with your mate to Thailand and they're like, oh, I don't really want to go to Thailand.
Speaker 1:And eventually you go, oh, come on. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And you convince them and they go Tyler, there's going to be a bit of spite in them and they're just going to not enjoy things because they already said they didn't want to go. So you're already on the back foot and they're going to just be dragging this depressing ball and chain around with you, being like this is good, though right, and they're going to be a sad sack and it's going to be boring. That's why you have to split off. I mean, when I went travelling, it was me and three other people who went to in and around Europe, and when you're around, like I've always said, the quickest way to not become friends with someone is to travel with them.
Speaker 1:And we're all still friends now.
Speaker 2:Although it can actually make you stronger. There was moments there. There was moments where there was.
Speaker 1:There was moments where there was strongest bonding, and there was also moments where we would have fucking hated each other, right, but then we just went. I think we we didn't say it, yeah, but there was a time where I think one of our hotels got cancelled and we just kind of went you guys go that way, we're gonna go this way, and they spent the night in venice. Yeah, and we spent. They spent a couple nights in venice, we spent a couple nights in munich, and then we met up again at the next place, which I think was like slovenia or something with a little bit of a refresh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, we got it like we got our systems. We were just like, oh, let's just have a little breather times, yeah, and we did, and we and then we could get through, because I think we were going to kill each other by the end of this trip this is what I mean if you go solo travelling.
Speaker 2:It eradicates all of us, exactly if all goes well.
Speaker 1:You shouldn't, alright, but that is how it is. You can't. You are going to piss someone especially, and it's rule of numbers it off, yeah, and you can have your little factions of the group. There's always going to be someone who's pissed off. They're not in the cooler faction yeah, you know the one I'm in and then there's also going to be like if you're in a group of four, you've got a likelihood that someone's not going to be enjoying the thing as much as everybody else, someone didn't want to go, so so stop going on holiday with people, go by yourself.
Speaker 1:I mean, what's great now is my kids. They have no autonomy over what we're doing. We're doing what I say. That's what.
Speaker 2:I mean, and they've got to get in the car and they're strapped in. This is the best bit about being 30. The freedom you get is great.
Speaker 1:Bad luck, bad luck, kids. You're going where I'm driving you to, all right.
Speaker 2:But I think as well, obviously being solo in another country is not only do you get that sense of freedom, but it takes you out of your comfort zone oh yeah, which is a big thing and it's such and it's a eye-opener and I can see you thriving doing it though once you get out, yeah, but the thing is I do in this country every day, that you go through things and when I think about solo traveling and, like I was thinking, oh, you know, it teaches you how to rely on yourself, but then I'm thinking, well, that's what being single does.
Speaker 1:Being in the uk, yeah, but it's kind of like it's the tightrope walk right because you're when you're relying on yourself, but you, you're, you've got your own place yeah, it's a bit different.
Speaker 2:You've got that fallback, but when you're relying- on yourself in a different country. Yeah, you, if you, you can really fuck up when, I must admit, I was in singapore on my own and I wanted to go to the trees, the garden and all that jazz uh-huh, what's?
Speaker 1:it called I don't know, but I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah and but I was miles out from it so I had to get a train, had to get a bus and that was a bit crazy in a country I'd never, ever been in. And once you achieve, I remember I was saying I was trying to book this ticket was dead weird and I couldn't book this ticket. It was dead weird and I couldn't book this ticket and I was like, oh my God, I was getting stressed out and this man came over and he actually spoke English and he was like you can do whatever you put your mind to. It was such a weird moment the fuck I know it was the most weirdest thing ever, yeah, but and he was like there, obviously okay, and it just gave me that confidence. I thought I've achieved that, I've got a train on my own in a foreign country, and it gives you that sense of achievement. And once you get that sense of achievement where you know you can do it, when you come back home you get a bit more obviously what's the word confidence in yourself yeah, absolutely, and you can.
Speaker 1:You have to keep kind of topping up on your solo traveling because, or just traveling I'm saying traveling general now because obviously I'm going with uh brie and the kids everywhere, but like you still have to go do it, and now I've got that, I've got the wife and kids with me.
Speaker 1:It's an extra pressure to like make these uniracial decisions and do all that stuff, yeah, but you have to kind of top up on your solo traveling as well and go and doing things by yourself because you can, as soon as you get back, you're like you come back with a new lease of life. I'm going to do it this way and this way and this way. I'm going to use less technology, because when I did my solo traveling around america, I didn't use gps yeah, I used a map.
Speaker 1:Imagine yeah, I was like that in barbados I didn't have an american phone at that point, so I used yeah, I sat, I remember sitting in denny's and mapping out my routes and exits. And then I think back and I'm like what a fucking pose, what a knobhead right. Because it's just like all right mate. You know, that's what you did back in the day.
Speaker 2:Go live in the fucking woods.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, but I could have. What I could have done is use my English phone, connect to Wi-Fi, download the maps on Google and then just had Google Maps.
Speaker 2:But this is another thing.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed that. I enjoyed drawing my route and then picking out little places I wanted to go to.
Speaker 2:I think as well. The beauty, the beauty we have now is mobile phones. You go on maps, you can say wherever you want to go. It'll tell you what bus to get on, how far to walk to the bus. It tells you've got some people who want to get from a to b. They're in a foreign country, they're on the road, they want to do something, get a sim card in that country, like I went to sri lanka and I bought the sim card so I could use my phone everywhere, and it cost like five, five pounds, I think, for like however long I was out there for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, but that maps is amazing, it's how it trains it's so good doesn't it take a bit of the travel out of it though?
Speaker 2:No, because I like to not. You know know where I'm going. No, but that's it.
Speaker 1:But like if Because I think this is more of a me problem, because I'm very much a um end result guy like so if I'm going to this place, yeah, all the way to that place, I'm thinking about getting to that place.
Speaker 1:I'm not enjoying the actual trip to that place right whereas if I don't have a place in mind, yeah, I then enjoy the little places on the way to whichever place I end up. We're both planners, we both like to plan out the route, but I kind of just like a little freeform way of doing it, which, which is only happens when I'm traveling, does not happen in england, does not happen when I'm here, but you're going holiday mode, aren't you? That's what I mean, that's it. You've got like a difference of solo overseas or island time, exactly you're on island time the best time.
Speaker 2:But I do think as well, obviously say, if you do go solo traveling, say you have a busy life back home or you are in a relationship and or you are single.
Speaker 1:It is a way just to really get to know yourself because, like I said, you're away from work so you're able to sit in that time to be fair, though I'm thinking about because you're very social yeah so when you are so your solo traveling time to yourself, I feel there's going to be far less than my solo traveling time to myself, because you will go out, meet a group of people and have like a like, socialize people, whereas I'm like an anti-social solo traveler, I'm just bobbing along yeah, but sometimes I can.
Speaker 2:I like to be in my own little that's it I because, like when I was sitting, in that den is mapping out. I had a little chat with the, the waitress, and that was it so it's like sometimes when I did anyone else like when I did group travel, for instance, everything was all very like scheduled, even a massive group, and there were some days I'm like guys, I'm not coming, I'm just gonna stay by the pool I'm having my pizza, my cocktails. You guys go and I'll see you later.
Speaker 1:I can picture it so vividly. You're sat by the pool.
Speaker 2:I was the only one who kept saying I'm not doing that cooking lesson, I'm staying here, I can see it.
Speaker 1:You're sat by the pool. You've got all this hubbub of people around you with all their shit. What are we doing today? What's on the itinerary?
Speaker 2:And then go. Oh yeah, honestly myself, yeah, I never forget. I was at this villa once and we had the pool. That's on the beach, a stunning scenery in thailand and they all went out for the day and, oh, I got a pizza and I was just sat there when I think thailand, I think.
Speaker 1:I know it's about the pool, that's all.
Speaker 2:I always live off to pizza in thailand. Don't ask me why, but anyway. But and I was sat there and it was just great. There was no noise around me. And just to be because I love it, even when I'm back home, like on saturday, as I said before the weekend, I love having my lion watching the kardashians switching my phone off so no one can contact me and just completely switching off this weekend, I thought, fuck it, I need to do it for longer because I there's a lot I'm trying to process, there's a lot of like decisions I have to make, so I switched my whole day off and I loved it my phone.
Speaker 1:I just sat I literally sat in gratitude for the day and I just wanted to be thankful it's alive, that's good, and I think that's another thing when you're on holiday, you can do that as well, which is absolutely and I didn't say it in the finance episode and I wish I had now what I would spend money on holidays, no exclusivity. So you know when you're saying, like when you can have a thing to yourself oh beat, oh, does he see yourself?
Speaker 2:I'd love that happens that's that sometimes happens.
Speaker 1:You just love it. You fumble, fumble across, you stumble that's the word. Stumble across just a little stretch of space and you're like, oh shit, this is, this is ours yeah, and you get a little exclusive little bit, and obviously people trickle in and trickle out but like, oh God, this is. And then that is what I, that is what, if you can just pay money, just have a little bit of like that to myself. Oh.
Speaker 2:See, I do love it. I love being on holiday. It's the best I know we all do yeah.
Speaker 1:I know News just in guys. Holidays are great, great but I do.
Speaker 2:But there is sometimes when you can go solo travel. Let's, let's. We're hyping it up okay, yeah, but there is actually there is sometimes where sometimes you wish you were with someone else and you're gonna feel that's normal. I'm not gonna say, you're not gonna go to another country on holiday with yourself and think, oh, I wish someone else was here to enjoy it with me. You're gonna have those moments, of course you are, but I think you're gonna put the spin on it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna put on it go on I think so. If you're, you're solo traveling, you see something and you go, ah, blah, blah would really like that. That would make me then think about, like the people I've got back home that I'm thinking about right now it's a little bit of like a nice oh, I wish they were here to see this.
Speaker 1:Take a picture, send this to them. You know at all you're doing your little bit. I saw this when you're out there. We should, we should take a trip there at some point and you kind of plan for something else. But like if you think, if you're thinking about people while you're away, that means they're an important person it's not even that, though, okay, for instance.
Speaker 2:No, no, that's one bit, that is one bit okay no, there's another bit as well. It's like one of our listeners. He went traveling on his own got a divorce when traveling and I remember him saying I was like oh, how's it going? And he's like I just wish I had someone special to enjoy this with.
Speaker 1:But he would be able to get that personally, I don't feel that way.
Speaker 2:I'm just I'm. I'm like I'm flipping, loving time on my own and just not having anyone to do but there is times where on solo travelling there might be a bit where you wish someone was there.
Speaker 1:but you're going to I mean I like times myself but Christ alive. I mean I did a stag, do you know? I did a stag do in Liverpool and I was missing the kids and missing Bree, bree, you know, straight away, like within the first night, I'm like I wonder what the kids are doing, and Bree's sending me photos and stuff like that. So you're gonna instantly miss people for sure.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but not all the time but not all the time you're gonna have moments where you'll see something that'll be like oh, like I said, you'll see something that will ride, but then you can just go back to enjoying exactly, I mean we do drive a lot though.
Speaker 2:I have got so comfortable with myself to the point where I've learned so much, do you reckon?
Speaker 1:it is because we are always on the road no, I think it's just the freedom.
Speaker 2:I'm in love with it.
Speaker 1:No, no, no but you no, no, we're so comfortable with it maybe yeah, because you've been alone with your thoughts, aren't you? Yeah like today I spoke to next to nobody and I was just driving for hours and hours, and hours yeah, I live when I've got a long drive oh yeah it's great put your music on singing that's it. I really liked it. Have you ever done that? Have you ever had the no music on do a stretch? I did it today, on the way home from the gym.
Speaker 1:It's very rare for me to do because I love a sing song, but I just drove home and quiet I do it sometimes when I'm like I don't even remember how I got to this point and I turn the turn the music off for a bit and be like I need to actually Like I've gone into complete autopilot. I need to have a little reset and work out that I'm still a human. I'm still a human, so I'll turn the music off and be like, okay, I'm registering what's going on, but yeah. So I think you do need to be comfortable with yourself.
Speaker 2:But it's all a lesson.
Speaker 1:And also you need to be a the world and not you know, have friends and relationships and stuff, but at the same time it is nice to you know, have time with yourself I think it's so important, no matter if you're in a relationship, if you're not, if you are surrounded by people constantly.
Speaker 2:I think it's so important to take time to yourself I couldn't sorry.
Speaker 1:I was just gonna say I could not be in a relationship with someone who couldn't spend time alone.
Speaker 2:That's codependency. Is that it, yeah, codependency?
Speaker 1:because sometimes Brie will go to me and, like we're watching TV together, she goes. She'll go, like I'm just going to go up the stairs.
Speaker 2:I would say you guys have got a healthy relationship. Yeah, she has a little time. She lets you come to a podcast that's it but yeah, so we've got some questions from Victoria yes, go on, I'm ready, I'll just fire some over to you, okay. So how do you pick your destination like? Do you think solo trips are more suited to city destinations or chilling on a beach somewhere?
Speaker 1:I think you could both. Well, it can't be both she's asked for which one we can't go both cheers next. No, I think if you're warming into it, yeah, oh, go ahead. Oh fuck, exactly.
Speaker 2:I told you how do you pick? City or beach. Depends what you like Exactly Depends what vibe you want. I think beach is very good for going to Thailand.
Speaker 1:It's incredible Sit and do nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just have a bit of a breather, a reset city if you want to be doing stuff yeah, exactly if you feel like you just want to explore and do a lot.
Speaker 1:If you're not 100%, I say yeah if you're not comfortable being alone, go to a city, because then you'll always have something to do, whereas if you just because I think, I would struggle with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you could book excursions though, couldn't you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then you kind of try and do. I'm saying like you know.
Speaker 2:Like I wouldn't want to go to a hotel and just sit there and sunbathe. Oh, that's my idea of how.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think hell might be pushing it. That's like two weeks.
Speaker 2:I think you'd on vibe, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:if you like a, city, try a foreign city. If you like a countryside, try a foreign countryside. That's it. Thanks for joining us this week and we will see you next week where we create, or attempt to create, the perfect country. Yes, are you prepped? Of course, yes, you sounded it. Of course. Yes, yes, yes, you sounded it from that, yes, sure, yeah, we are going to.
Speaker 2:I actually did think about that. You know, if you buy like a piece of land yeah, like an island and just make your own country, it's very difficult to do.
Speaker 1:You have to be a billionaire to do it, which is why Dubai exists. They just went fuck it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we don't need to be on a big scale like that. Do you Start small, build slowly.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you're thinking you just have your food from one place in like a little shack.
Speaker 2:And then a little, then build it up, but then I do think about when.
Speaker 1:I watch Moana with Bryn, not just chilling by myself boshing moana. Um, I do think like that sounds nice actually yeah, besides. I mean, they're like that but I know that's the whole. Like premise of the film is like no, you should want more than you know the land you're from. But like it sounds nice, like just it does sound. Yeah, that's what it's like in thailand but they're like they will listen to the same song I've always listened to. It's just like, but sometimes that does sound a bit nice it does honestly simple life.
Speaker 2:You know your role.
Speaker 1:You're just bobbing along you go past your car.
Speaker 2:People just sat outside the houses just chilling, staring into your bits calm, nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like a little stoop chill yeah lovely as a way of what your perfect country is. But yeah, we're just going to do like I'll explain next week. Anyway, there's loads of rules. Charlotte loves rules, so I've given loads of rules to the game. Good times. But as usual, please give us five stars. Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your enemies, tell your best pals tell everyone Just.
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