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When Happy Is Right Here: Should You Still Want More?

Jake Martini & Charlotte McGuire

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Ever feel like you’re just... floating? Not miserable, not thrilled - just kind of existing in that middle lane of life.

In this episode, we explore the weird in-between space where comfort meets complacency. We’re not here to yell "take the leap!"- sometimes chilling in your lane is the move. But we do ask: how do you know if you’re truly content or just too tired to care?

Would the person on their deathbed feel satisfaction at a life lived boldly, or regret for opportunities missed due to fear? 

Whether you’re thriving, surviving, or just vibing, this one’s for you. No judgment, just real talk about comfort, fear, floating, and how maybe not changing can still be a choice worth reflecting on.

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Speaker 1:

hello and welcome to 30 old, 30 young. A podcast where we make the ring light. Do some heavy lifting.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

I just saw you staring into it.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't really do me any justice. I need a new ring light.

Speaker 1:

I think everyone should see the setup of how I'm on the periphery of the ring light. You've got it all fucking glowing. I'm just here like can I have a little bit of gold light on mine? Love it? Yeah, I'll put a filter on mine, Can you?

Speaker 2:

put a filter on mine Magic.

Speaker 1:

Magic. So welcome back to Money Month. I hope you enjoyed last week's mini episode. It was a little bit, a little bit mad, so hope you appreciated that we were losing it a little bit mad, so I hope you appreciate that we, uh, we're losing it a little bit. So this week I wanted to talk about comfort zones. Staying in your lane, is it a good thing, is it a bad thing? Is it just a comfortable middle ground? Stay in your comfy lane oh, we're just getting straight to where you're at absolutely thanks for listening.

Speaker 1:

Uh, we'll see you next week fucking out. No like is it. Is it the? What is it? Comforts, the comforts the enemy of success.

Speaker 2:

And uh, comparisons are the enemy of what society tells you well, that's it, that's it like I mean.

Speaker 1:

I mean so when you think about comfort zones, where are you at your most comfy?

Speaker 2:

When I'm on the sofa.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying but the thing is also with that. So you're comfy, you're lying in your bed. You're having a nice lie until fuck you o'clock. However, that's now, that's your comfort zone, happy place and all that lot. However, if you ask other people, they're like oh, I couldn't, I couldn't, possibly I couldn't. Oh, it's horrendous being in bed that time. It's like you're full of shit.

Speaker 2:

You're full of shit I mean, I just don't get people like that. If I wake up at 11, dreamily wake up, think oh, I've got the Kardashians to watch, then I'll go downstairs make some breakfast. Come on, mays, have some breakfast too.

Speaker 1:

Great good times you can do it. If you can do it, people who go like oh, I couldn't, possibly it's because they fucking. It's because they can't do it they can't do it. They, oh, they can't do it. They don't have the facilities to do it. As in they've got kids or they feel guilt They've got kids or they've got a partner who's like come on, we're going hiking.

Speaker 2:

Or it's the guilt.

Speaker 1:

Or it's the guilt. They're like oh, I need to be. Well, that's where you can heal laying in bed on a sunday. I would love to do it. Not possible, I mean, the problem is now if ever I do get a lion, yeah, it's because I've gone away for something you know, stag and all that lot.

Speaker 2:

So the line is completely obliterated by the fact I'm hanging out my ass see, I'm still not getting it, still not getting that sleeping I'm really chilled, though, because people feel like you've got to wake up super early and get everything done, but you don't. I never struggle for time. Okay, I struggle for time because I'm late sometimes, but I never struggle for time to get shit done.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't.

Speaker 1:

No, I know, I mean sometimes.

Speaker 2:

I go on a walk and it's turning dark. I'm like maybe should have left an hour earlier. But I still get the war done. We still do it in time.

Speaker 1:

Great, lovely time but do you have that anxiety to do things like, to get things done?

Speaker 2:

yeah, there's nothing better than the last minute no, that's the exact, because I okay it depends. There's there's two situations, there's two wolves in me.

Speaker 1:

Right there's two, and they're fighting all the time. One is a massive procrastinator and the other one's anxious that something hasn't been done I've got two wolves too. You got them too and the procrastinating wolf is a fucking unit compared to the little puppy as the anxiety. But I'll tell you what that anxiety sometimes can just be fucking like. Why are we not doing these things?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, and yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so it's like a little battle where I'm like there's a five-minute job that needs doing. If I just do it, I will just ease out. And the person who got to see it firsthand recently I mean Bruce, sees it all the time. But when we were driving to the stag I said to Jakeake right, we've got to be, I've got to drop this stuff off at victorian plumbing. Yeah, at five o'clock you sure I could have driven up, but I was going to liverpool anyway, it was a point making trip twice, sure.

Speaker 1:

So I said to him right, so if I pick you up about 11, 30 and we can head up, so I gotta get there for five. And he went, it's two hours, two hours away. I went yeah, I need a good like four hour window for a two hour drive. I need, I need that. And on the way, I'm like fuck me, what about if I haven't packaged it right? What about if, because they're saying like it needs to be packaged for resale, can't be dusty or dirty or anything like that? I'm all this is running through as I'm driving this two and a half hour drive and I mean it's lucky we did eventually. I ended. I picked him up at 1, and we got there at quarter to 5. So it took us like three hours 45 minutes to get to this place. So the anxiety was kind of like I fucking told you yeah, yeah, yeah, I told you. And I drove straight through and usually I'm a big old service stopper. Love a stop at a service, do you.

Speaker 1:

Pop in, have a little wee, grab a monster and move on.

Speaker 2:

I'm like foot to the pedal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, that's it. So I was like I've got to get there, and Jake was like you're fine, we're doing absolutely fine for time. And I just saw that time ticking up and up and up and up. So I used to have a friend like that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you got rid of them, fucking. I bought a dress off ASOS and it was coming on a Saturday. We had to be somewhere on a Saturday and I was like, can we just wait for my dress to arrive, because I need it for this evening. Anyway, shit hit the fan because we needed to leave right there. And then, even though it made no difference, but we didn't make no difference.

Speaker 2:

No, we didn't Got there in plenty of time, had a great evening. It would have made no difference to arrive there an hour early but I think people have, I, because I have it.

Speaker 1:

I have this anxiety of like it's like with a holiday, like I don't believe the holiday is going to happen until I'm on that plane yeah like all of this thing for it an event. I don't believe the event's going to really happen until I'm there see I get anxiety before I leave the house which is every day someone to just drag me out the house.

Speaker 2:

So if I'm going to the cotswolds, see my grandparents. Oh, I stress so much because why, because I've got so much to do tonight, to get done before, and it's not so much things I need to get done, it's just, I worry I forgot everything. Have I done this, have I done that? I don't know what it is, but I just, it's just yeah, so imagine if you got up earlier you'd have it all done.

Speaker 1:

It's not about that, yeah, but if you're worried about missing stuff when you pack in, like when you left your passport in Italy.

Speaker 2:

I need to reflect on this because I just don't know what it is that gets me angst about it. But I get angst sometimes.

Speaker 1:

I think we need to find a middle ground between our two ways of being we're. We're at two ends of a scale.

Speaker 2:

I do. It depends because if I'm working, say if I've got a big meeting, then I make sure I'm prepared, I get it all sorted, and especially the drive. You work out the timings and stuff. I don't know. It's like my grandparents. I don't know why I get anxious. I need to reflect on it because I don't actually know why well, because you're not going to be anxious to see them.

Speaker 1:

It's not like there's bad blood there and you're like oh Christ, of course not no, sometimes people get anxious because they've fallen out with someone previously so they don't really want to go around and see them, or if they've said something stupid at the last party so the next event they don't really want to go to.

Speaker 2:

If anyone's listening to this and understand why I do it. Please just drop me a DM because Charlotte fucking has no idea.

Speaker 1:

That is weird, is it go?

Speaker 2:

out for a meal.

Speaker 1:

I just is it like you're worried about you leaving something on? You're leaving?

Speaker 2:

something behind. I don't know. Honestly, I need to reflect on this.

Speaker 1:

You're like an hour to the cot swash. You're like fuck Maisie, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2:

maybe, yeah, maybe it that's it, because if I could take her with me, I'd put her in the car and I'd go. I don't like leaving her. That's what it is. There you go. Don't need to message me, guys. I know I worked out.

Speaker 1:

You can't leave anyone behind.

Speaker 2:

I just don't like leaving Maisie. If I'm taking Maisie with me, I'm good.

Speaker 1:

She's your comfort blanket.

Speaker 2:

That's it.

Speaker 1:

So for you, comfort's a. It's amazing.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing, of course.

Speaker 1:

Pod dog. But like on the other side of it, does growing up just look a lot like settling? Does maturing seem a lot like, you know, giving up?

Speaker 2:

If you're happy. That's what the main thing you need to ask yourself is if you're happy, if you're not happy, then you need to make changes. But if you are happy, but if you are happy, then you're okay, because I've seen, I've seen two sizes. It's okay to be just like plodding along, it's fine to do that.

Speaker 1:

If you want to do that, yeah, because content is especially on the internet. It's there's two different sides to it, like people are like are you? Being content is the best thing you can be. You you're happy with your lot, what you've got, what you've got, what you've earned, what you've worked hard for you're happy with you appreciate it. However, people are like if you're content with what you've got now, you fucking suck and you need to be grafting. You need to be working. Never be settling for what you've got now. Be settling for what you've got in 10 years 20 years, 30 years.

Speaker 2:

I always find these creatures very interesting these fucking Instagram creatures.

Speaker 1:

Can you be like so successful and so like really in your bag? I think that's a phrase that cool kids say these days that you don't see the writing on the wall, that there is something coming that is going to absolutely knock you for six, and it could be that, like, you think you're doing really well, but there's someone who's I don't know, someone who's coming up behind you, who's basically going to take your job. They're going to get rid of you and, plus, with the invention of AI and stuff like that, there's a lot of jobs that are going to. Yeah, so is it like, can you be so blinded by it and so comfortable that it's just basically like a hubris? It'll be like the end of you, because you haven't prepped for when it all goes to shit, but like. It just reminds me of like you know, um, you know Kodak.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And they were doing so well, like just unreal, unreal business, absolutely dominating like the film market, right, making billions and billions and billions. One of their engineers, Stephen Sassoon, he invented the digital camera in like 1975. Yeah, and they went shut the fuck up. No, no, you didn't. All right, you keep that to yourself. You. You keep fucking making film.

Speaker 1:

All right, just yeah and so they carried on with film and carried on, and carried on, and carried on and they basically just kept selling the film, kept on it as that market got smaller and smaller and smaller because digital cameras started to come into the market. It was like the 19 is like 10 years later. The first digital camera came into the market. They had it already. They had it there, but a different company, and in the end they only just managed to claw back the mark, the biggest market share, and when they did, they finally recedededed.

Speaker 1:

Finally were like fuck it, yeah, digital cameras been off film, whatever films, in the past, but two decades too late everyone moved to camera phones and so they just got, they just kind of got there with the digital camera and then everyone just pivoted to the next thing. They were just behind on it, bloody hell, but they had it there. They had it there, they had it right there and we're just like no, you're right and we're just gonna. We're gonna keep doing what we're doing. They stayed in their lane, they were comfy with it, they knew they were dominating, but the writing was on the wall I feel with businesses it's a different thing, because you've always got to be moving, always yeah but they weren't yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying yeah, you've got to diversify to be looking at the next thing.

Speaker 2:

There's a book on it blue ocean strategy you love water, you don't?

Speaker 1:

you love a bit of water but you have, you've always got a bit yeah it's hard, though, because you can imagine like being being on the board of directors where someone's like hey, listen, I know film's doing great right now, but how about we completely disrupt our entire industry, kill our film sales and, instead of making billions on that, we kind of change the entire market and start selling people digital cameras we make less money on huh, what do you reckon, guys? And they'll all be like shut up, you're fired, you're gone, you can't see it. I mean it's. It's kind of like um, people never thought the iphone would replace blackBerry, I know, but fuck, have you seen that?

Speaker 2:

No, I don't know. I was about to say have you seen the film? I remember when I went to Thailand and all the Australians had iPhones and I had a BlackBerry. I said, oh my God, you've got an iPhone. They're rubbish.

Speaker 1:

I know it's mad, isn't it how?

Speaker 2:

did I even think an iphone was rubbish yeah, but we.

Speaker 1:

I used to love my blackberry and I did too but bbm, yeah, but it's just like whatsapp, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

that's it, yeah but so crazy but things are always entertaining and then when the new thing comes by like I know we didn't jump straight from like whatsapp to facetime, however like that's like a huge leap and you can't imagine that being entertaining. You can't imagine. Even before, like bbm was portable and before that we had msn, right yeah, which was kind of just like you sat, you sat waiting to chat to your friends locked in there, but then before that, people, it was like I suppose we had some mobile phones, but nothing too great on it. All you could do is play snake.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like, as the tech kind of jumps on, we kind of we're kind of more susceptible to be bored by what we used to be. Like that's why I can't play um, play, that's it. I can't really play games anymore because, like I think my tech, I think I had a better attention span as a kid than I do now Like you could commit to to more things. I think, genuinely, when I try and show Bryn and Coop Crash Bandicoot, they're going to be like what the fuck is this?

Speaker 2:

it's going to seem so we always play that as kids remember that and we were lapping it up.

Speaker 1:

We were in it, we were locked in, but it's going to be seen as so because text moves so quickly. It's going to be seen as so rudimental so basic.

Speaker 2:

They'll have their facing on waiting the goggles where they're in this oh, they'll have vr.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they'll be like however, I'm playing crash bandicoot, vr okay that'd be.

Speaker 2:

So now we're talking, unless someone's chasing you when the boulder moves. Yeah, but I thought there was a thing.

Speaker 1:

There was a thing that was coming out for a little bit and I wanted one so much. It's like a um, so you're doing VR.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And you're playing like Call of Duty or whatever. Yeah, but you're on a treadmill. Yes, and the treadmill moves with yeah, yeah, yeah, like fuck your gym off Like imagine doing Crash Bandicoot, I know, and you're on a treadmill, you're just running jumping and whatever, and just absolutely gunning it Spin around oh, that that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:

Like that, that's the new, and they'll be doing stuff like that, although they won't even have goggles, they'll just be like an implant and it'll just like, and it'll just transform somewhere and they'll just be zap, zap somewhere and they'll be like oh yeah, I was just in fucking I don't know that's a long way off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that'd be their children's children but it though that's the thing.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't that long ago, yeah, where I mean the fact that you were in thailand and the iphone was coming about. And now we've had 15, 18 of them since then and I remember being in school learning the keyboard at the computer yeah that was unheard of that's it. Like it was so good. Computers were like oh, it was a huge thing.

Speaker 2:

yeah, and we had one in when I was in year four and I was like, oh it's, I've learned to tie it with two hands, but that wasn't even a thing.

Speaker 1:

Now look at the computers. That's it. When someone was into computers, they'd be like I don't know if they're going to be. The internet wasn't going to take off. No one's going to fucking use that. It is absolutely mad.

Speaker 2:

So these innovations can combine just this is why the comfort zone is scary, yeah, because something can come along and just absolutely blow out the water also, if you get comfy with your technology and you're, you're not keeping with the times. That's another thing, because times change and before you know it, you're gonna be like your nana you can't do anything that's why I'm scared of that.

Speaker 1:

but I am worried that there is going to be a time where I can't help the kids with some tech that they've got, Like they'll be like oh Dad, just get out of the way, They'll be showing you. Yeah, but that's.

Speaker 2:

I know it's horrible, isn't it? It's going to happen.

Speaker 1:

But that's why it's important to keep up with the times You've got to keep up, but what's the equivalent in your got to be keeping up with what's going to blow you out of the water of your comfort zone wow, that's it, isn't it? Well it's, but oh, in a more like not to kind of fat shame. But for me my staying in my comfort zone too much was getting obese, getting absolutely too fat and then and you could have had a heart attack. I don't think it got that bad.

Speaker 2:

Maybe you could do.

Speaker 1:

Fucking hell.

Speaker 2:

No, but come on yeah.

Speaker 1:

I could have had a heart attack. I mean, I did used to faint occasionally.

Speaker 2:

And then you could end up with a bad back or anything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, so lots of things could have happened.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so staying in your comfort zone of being can get too comfy and stuff.

Speaker 1:

It's just not good no, but yeah, staying in that in the personal way, I guess that's kind of.

Speaker 2:

That's my equivalent of of it is mine's probably just settling like if I, if I had settled in for a relationship, I wouldn't have gone on the journey that I went on, and the woman I am today from that journey oh god, I wouldn't. I'm grateful that I've got me now who I am that's it, because I'm independent.

Speaker 2:

I'm strong, you know I don't put up with shit where before you know I was very I would put up with more and I probably had a bit more fear in me. But it's because I took the leaps of faith which we mentioned before and it worked out, so I've got a bit more confidence in them now yeah, well, that's it.

Speaker 1:

I mean a lot of it can also come down to timing. Like you could be kind of like I don't know like six out of ten on the relationship, kind of enjoying it, kind of it's not really pushing you but you're of and I don't know you, kind of like there's a scene from master of none and it's like they're at a wedding where two of the friends are getting married and they're saying like I, I choose you because it's about the time in my life where I should probably be getting married and she's like same here, we should probably be getting married. It's about that time. Maybe if we'd met a few years before, we wouldn't stay together. Maybe we'd met a few years later, we wouldn't be. But right now my parents are thinking I'm going to get married, so let's get married, that kind of thing and that's their vows. It's all like kind of a bit, but it's true, sometimes it is just a matter of timing.

Speaker 2:

Like you meet someone at a certain time and societal standards are there and you kind of just fall into it. Yeah, you've got to think about the bigger picture. That's the comfort.

Speaker 1:

That's the comfort zone people.

Speaker 2:

People need that comfort you can't, because why would you want to come to this like life and settle for mediocre love? You want to find out what the magic is like the true love and like proper love yeah, but people, people can also.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but people could also get into the relationships to be like and that love. You know that love will grow into something else, it will get bigger.

Speaker 2:

It can happen, it could. But 50 of marriages and divorce, so sometimes it doesn't yeah, yeah, so I'd, if I was to meet someone, I'd have to like it's got to be the real thing. So I want to experience everything in this life and if I just settle for something where I was like, oh you know, so it's all right, it's okay, you know, whatever, I could have a nice house with, quite you know, 2.4 kids, but I just don't want that that .4 kid sucks for them.

Speaker 2:

Maybe it's a dog, I think it's the average.

Speaker 1:

I think it's like the nuclear family now is like 2.4 on average. It's like the average amount of arms people have in this world is actually less than 2 see, I'd love to know when I'm on my, when I'm on my deathbed. I love when I say something and you're like I'm not even fucking acknowledging that.

Speaker 2:

No, sorry, I was in my own little world.

Speaker 1:

I'm moving past, whatever the fuck you just said.

Speaker 2:

No, sorry, I was in my own little world and just thinking about something, but I'd love to know, you know, when I get onto my deathbed what I'm going to be thinking All the risks of favour thing. I've taken everything and going after this life that I want.

Speaker 1:

Well, you reckon God's going to be like shouldn't have taken that one pal.

Speaker 2:

He was great.

Speaker 1:

If I get, Do you know that guy? That was the guy I sent you your soulmate and you were like sorry, you're 5'7" fuck off, Sorry, no.

Speaker 2:

I would love. I'd love to know at the end if I'd be happy with the life that I've lived, because that is my only goal in life is to make sure that when I take my last breath, I'd be like I'm so happy with the life that I've lived, no regrets. No regrets.

Speaker 1:

Well, alright Fair enough. I mean, that's fair. I've definitely not, but it's hard to do, is it though?

Speaker 2:

Is it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because if you're a hindsight Harry like me, you've got to be thinking about the what-ifs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I do think about the what-ifs. I mean, we did the episode on it, we did yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know, but it's still there. It's like, oh, if I'd done that, if I'd done that, if I'd done that you know what?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm.

Speaker 1:

Go on. I was so do I what you've got an above average number of arms two yeah, because the average number of arms is actually like 1.99999999.

Speaker 2:

Recurring, because all it takes is 1% of one arm, and then obviously it's the average oh god.

Speaker 1:

I know that's what's in here rattling around. This is on my 6 hour round trip to go collect something tomorrow. This is what's in my head around. This is on my six hour round trip to go go collect something tomorrow. This is what's in my head. Just like a monkey with the fucking symbols so funny, honestly so stupid. I'm glad we circled back to that. It was worth it um.

Speaker 2:

I completely sorry. I was in my own little world there thinking about something. Completely missed it.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, it's alright, I'm not hurt we got it, I can delete it. So pretend you actually listen to me I can edit it down um, but yeah. So staying in your lane. Do you like it or you don't like ever?

Speaker 2:

if I'm happy, yes, but if I'm just being lazy, I'm just being just putting up with shit. Sorry for swearing. I do that quite often yeah, maybe just Charlotte you go, yeah, okay, anyway if you've put up with it and it's just because you're the fear is holding you back, then I don't agree with it.

Speaker 1:

No, I think I follow, I think I do, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think I definitely live by it for sure live by what well you know just by that truth I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what you choose. You sorry me, because you were like I live in the comfort and then not the first like I don't. I don't know what's going on say the house, for instance okay yeah, my house.

Speaker 2:

I could get a bigger house yeah right now I'm settling I was gonna.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say okay, I was going to say because, literally before we started recording tonight, you were like I want a bigger house, yeah, but what you're saying now is that you should be actively seeking a bigger house?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which I am.

Speaker 1:

Biggest podcast studio. Oi, I'm with you. What's wrong with this lounge? I'm with you. What's our studio? It's great, it's all right.

Speaker 2:

I always worry, someone's looking in behind me. Oh, don't.

Speaker 1:

Oh, no, stop it. No, I do, because what you're I think what you're saying is, from what I was grasping, I didn't understand. So you're saying that if someone or something isn't treating you right, whether it be a person or a job, yeah, it is still quite easy to kind of be like but this is what I know, this is what I'm used to, and you kind of lean into it a bit more right, and then you end up staying because you kind of you've maybe been with someone for five years or you can't leave because financially financially.

Speaker 1:

You're intertwined, like you, you don't know what a divorce or is going to do, because they, because people will always think, well, that's never going to be yours when a divorce comes about. But people turn into the most horrific. Oftentimes it comes down to the like divorce lawyers like really like fucking ramp it up and make it and you hear some horror divorce stories. But I did see a tiktok, the and I'll show it to you. It's this girl and she stood, she stood out in the snow in like Switzerland and she's like, yeah, I'm going to leave my fiance and she's like she's just saying I wanted to get on the train, he wanted to get on the bus and he has just flown off of me about this, just gone way, way overreacted to the whole situation because I just want to do something different than he wanted to do.

Speaker 1:

I have to pay for the train, the train's right outside. I didn't want to get on the bus, whatever. And she's like I'm not going to say anything now, I'm going to wait till we get home, because we're in Switzerland and I don't want have like a horrendous journey back or whatever. But when I get back and she goes and she says it's been eight years. Our finances are intertwined, our life is intertwined, but I'm not going to live the next 40 yeah with this guy who's going to fly off the handle everything that's what I said I broke up with someone.

Speaker 1:

That's it I break up someone just for the same reason it makes sense because otherwise they, if they fly off the handle now like what else are you gonna fly if you've got kids as well, if ever you have kids yeah and you know you're putting your kid at risk in the future.

Speaker 2:

I just couldn't do it. Yeah, she's not settling, and that's it I remember another relationship um which is quite long term. We had just bought a house within that six months yeah and I. I decided I just didn't want my life to be this way and I made that risk.

Speaker 2:

I just I had and, don't get me wrong, it took me a while to come to that conclusion yeah so it's going to but when you make that risk because obviously I've got a bit of like, a little bit of faith, so I feel like there's always someone there helping you. But I think if you go after happiness and you're brave enough to do it, sometimes things will happen and.

Speaker 2:

I've seen it from other people before. Like a girl she was divorcing her husband. She couldn't afford it, but then all of a sudden she got a job promotion at work which gave her the finances and I was like, look see, it's all meant to be life is helping you and it's like I was in a house and I was thinking, god, we just bought this house. We couldn't sell it because we just bought it.

Speaker 1:

Been in there six months oh Jesus, and that is it. It's the financial institution exactly can just think of the amount of people that were together because of that reason, like if you were to break up, it would just be like it's more hassle than it's worth.

Speaker 2:

I would rather go to a two-bed house where I was going to be happy than stay in this five-bed house where I was miserable. That's it.

Speaker 1:

That's it and that's the thing. And you can, and obviously not that you're in a privileged position to do that, but like there's some people like they literally have nowhere to go and they're like we've got nothing to fall back on and you have nowhere to go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've been in that situation before, where you know. Obviously I left home at 18 because I had to and you had nowhere. And I was in a relationship and my relationship wasn't right. You know, I signed up to university because I thought, oh great, I can have accommodation for a year with the funds from uni that you get for it. And I thought, oh great, brilliant.

Speaker 2:

But again, things just happen and when you take that leap of faith, sometimes you don't realize, but the help does come it does like it has done for me, and that's why I believe it happens, because it's happened in the past yeah where you know I went into um a professional house. Share, yeah yeah and I had a great time and before I never would have ever thought about living with someone and that took me out of my comfort zone, but I did it that's surprising.

Speaker 1:

That's how I feel.

Speaker 2:

That's a bit of you, no, no, it's a big thing at first it's like this is fun.

Speaker 1:

Then I'm like, oh fuck but then I did it and honestly, I had such a great time the thing is, it seems so simple that to step away from fear would obviously lead to happiness, but it's hard to do it can take, well, it can take years it can take two years.

Speaker 2:

It can take a year.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes could take 10 years but sometimes your life is like if you've got kids with this person, your life is completely intertwined. You'll never. Marriage is one thing with kids, and that you are. You are going to be forever and so you and then you're going to be worried like it's just, it is a it's a hard line to tread and it's you know it's a hard thing to talk about stuck.

Speaker 2:

You never ever are stuck, but I do. I truly believe that.

Speaker 1:

But it can just feel like you are yeah, and it can feel like you are and like, yeah, that every day, like I should, and you love people that will always talk about like I just need to like people who talk about not like liking their wives, people who talk about not liking their husbands, how their husbands aren't don't fulfill them anymore, blah, blah, blah but then they just their husbands how their husbands aren't don't fulfill them anymore, blah, blah, blah but then they just stay. You know they don't move on because they've been together that long. It's like what, what else could you do? I've got to get back in the dating scene right now, like I've got to get back out of the fuck. But yeah, that dating scene is waiting for you.

Speaker 2:

You'd be surprised it's always the fear of the unknown, isn't it, and it holds so many people back it really does it's held me back before oh yeah, I mean it makes sense because it's the measured leap, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's, it's gonna hold it, and then you can kind of talk yourself out of it. You think the further you get away from a situation like a battle where you want to just leave, get out of there the more time you leave, the more you're like, well, I guess it wasn't that bad. And you kind of talk yourself in back into the comfort zone because you've got the five bed house. You're like, oh, I've got that. Yeah, I could. Just that's a big enough house that I can have my own office, I can stay away from them. You know it's it's mad what you can talk yourself into, but that's the human condition.

Speaker 1:

It's mad what we can actually put ourselves through yeah and I feel like I've got a little bit preachy at the end here, so apologies for that, but that is comfort zones for you, and if you do want to share that with your friends and family, um, please go ahead. Uh, give us five stars if you haven't already subscribe. Subscribe on spotify and apple why not? It's already on your phone, probably, so please do. Then. You'll be notified every monday morning when our main or mini is out. And, as I said, this is money month, because we kind of want to have little themes every month to follow. This month's my month, so I'm going with this little thing I'm interested in. Next month we'll see what Charlotte's got in store.

Speaker 2:

So and if there's something that you guys want us to chat about let us know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're all far more interesting than we are, so let us know yeah, let us know what topics you want to hear we'll throw those in as well. We can dedicate our month to you you'll be amazed what we can talk about, because we've been at this for months now nearly a year wow, yeah, but we just didn't release till August no, but like, we've been chatting. We've been chatting for nearly a year, so we can keep chatting if you want us to, and if you celebrate or not.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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