30 Old 30 Young
30 Old 30 Young explores the fascinating contrasts of life in your thirties through the eyes of two cousins living vastly different paths. Join us as we navigate the uncertainties of adult life, from career choices to lifestyle decisions, through both a globetrotting adventurer's and a family-focused perspective.
Our main episodes dive deep into real-life challenges facing thirty-somethings today, while our mini-episodes break down the three best and worst aspects of pivotal adult life scenarios.
Whether you're questioning your life choices, seeking perspective, or just wanting to hear honest conversations about adulting, this podcast offers authentic insights into the beautiful chaos of your third decade. New episodes released weekly, featuring raw discussions about career transitions, relationships, mental health, and the endless quest for work-life balance. Your thirties don't come with a manual - but this podcast comes pretty close.
30 Old 30 Young
The Price Of A Dream: How Far Would You Go?
It’s money month!!
In our first episode we are talking about how the road to success is paved with risks, sacrifices, and sometimes—selling your dog. This deeply personal episode explores the financial gambles people take when pursuing their dreams, from Hollywood legends to everyday career-changers.
We wrestle with the boundaries between reckless abandon and calculated risk-taking. When is a leap of faith worth taking? How do you balance practical financial planning with following your passion? Does happiness at work matter more than a bigger paycheck? We dissect a real-life dilemma about someone who left a job they loved for a substantial pay increase—only to discover money doesn't compensate for daily misery.
Whether you're contemplating a career change, chasing a creative dream, or simply trying to find balance between passion and practicality, this episode offers both inspiration and practical wisdom for navigating life's biggest gambles.
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Hello and welcome to another installment of 30 Old, 30 Young, the podcast, where half of the co-hosts have left their voice in Liverpool. So I am not sounding too great. I'm sounding better than I was because I was in terrible nick. I woke up full like Marge Simpson. Oh gosh, jake was absolutely wetting himself.
Speaker 2:Sign of a good night on the karaoke.
Speaker 1:Well, what was weird is I was already done in before I even got to karaoke and Adam was like we're singing Wagon Wheel in five minutes.
Speaker 2:And I was like what are we doing?
Speaker 1:I love that I was absolutely done. Yeah, and bless him that everyone was very friendly afterwards, like you know, you were great. You were great. I was like, oh, I know we were. It was a bad time but yeah, I'm recovered, I survived. Liverpool didn't know what hit it. Didn't know what hit it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it just ate blokes out in the Cotswolds my family chilling.
Speaker 1:Cotswolds didn't know what hit it eating.
Speaker 2:The farmers didn't know what hit it. We were walking through all the fields by accident, lost anyway. What are we chatting about this?
Speaker 1:week. It is the start, even though this is coming out. End of March, last day of March, it's money April. I want to get into All about the money. Yeah, let's just talk about money and how much it means to us. But really I want to focus on different people who have gone from rock bottom all the way to massive successes. People that have been massive successes and completely shit the bed. Hey, that's me, and then we'll be, and then we'll just cover that. And I just knew what led to this is. I saw I already knew this story. I thought if charlotte knows who this person is, if big, big old, big old.
Speaker 1:If matt this, this person's a massive movie star huge one, one of the biggest.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's not brad pitt.
Speaker 1:Um, but it's. Today's episode is going to be about the financial sacrifices, or just general sacrifices people have made to get away from our notes.
Speaker 2:I see you looking I wasn't just drinking a sip of martina.
Speaker 1:Oh god, the microphone you were properly like all right, okay, fair enough. Um, yeah, the sacrifices people have made to become either rich and famous I know it's not all about being rich and famous, but like, absolutely not. But it's all about, like, taking a big old punt on yourself and backing yourself.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about today let's get into it so this all hangs on one thing and you've got google right there and I feel like, well, I'll take a break in a sec just for a shot to Google it the key person I wanted to focus on now for this financial sacrifice, backing yourself wholeheartedly that you are not going to know. I don't think and, like I said, if we put out a poll, I think 99% of people will know who this person is.
Speaker 2:And the one person will be me.
Speaker 1:He'll be you. Even though we've just spoken about him, you'd still be like I'm still not sure who he is.
Speaker 2:I was thinking I knew we were just speaking about him.
Speaker 1:Yeah but you'll still be like I forgot it'll be gone. But who is it? Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 2:Oh, that rings. Is that Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Speaker 1:No, you definitely shouldn't say that name yeah. Let me have a look, no, it's not Arnold Schwarzenegger, oh, it is Sylvester Stallone. It's kind of like I see it in my head. They were rivals. They were rivals back in the day, fake, kind of fake rivals, like who was going to be the more macho man. You had Arnie going, yeah, yeah. Sylvester Stallone going yeah, well, that's what I'm going to get into.
Speaker 2:Yes, I know him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Wasn't the guy I had in my head, but I do know him.
Speaker 1:Who did you have in your head, arnie?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it wasn't, it was someone else.
Speaker 1:Another big beef.
Speaker 2:Yeah, another big beef.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, it wasn't all. Well, there's all him that he wanted to do it.
Speaker 2:He wanted to be in it. He wanted to write about this and you acted in it as well well, that's the story.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, well, spoilers no one, no one knows that bit. Obviously I want to get comfy. Okay, lock in. So he wrote it about a down and out, down on his look boxer who wants to make it to the big time. Wants to make it, you know, could have been somebody. So so much so down on his look. Yeah, in real life, yeah, that he had to sell and he made $50 so because he couldn't afford to feed his dog anymore.
Speaker 2:So he had to sell his dog right.
Speaker 1:So was it because he was spending so much on the film he hadn't even got to the film part yet he had a script, he had yeah, he had a script and he wanted to sell it, but there were stipulations on wanting, on being able to sell it. Right, he had his rules that he wanted to follow, but he couldn't afford to feed his dog, so he was living hand to mouth, so much so that his dog couldn't afford to eat. So to give him a better home, big old sacrifice sold his dog. Oh no, I know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'd just get a part-time job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think I think me and maze are in it for life. Yeah, but I don't think it's not. I don't think he could put on his like, as charlie day said, put on his little job hat and put himself in the job can and fire himself into job land and get a job.
Speaker 2:I think it was famous no, no, this is pre-fame.
Speaker 1:This is at the right of the beginning no, because this is when, like america's in the shit, so there's not jobs about I'm sure there was one job? Yeah, maybe there was one job. But if he does that job and he jumps into that job and he, you know, that's all he's got time for is that job, then the script's not gonna happen. His dreams aren't gonna come true. So he's committing to the dream.
Speaker 2:At this point he's being a starving artist he's being a risk taker, risk taker, absolutely starving artist.
Speaker 1:I don just wouldn't sleep well, he wasn't sleeping, he was writing, because he's writing rocky yeah, but he would have gone to sleep at night time what do you mean?
Speaker 2:you can't monetize going to sleep no, I'm saying right, you get a second time job okay okay, four go sleep, get another no, so he gets part-time jobs. He's got money coming in, so he'd have to give his dog away. He could work around the clock when he wasn't working and sleep when he needed sleep.
Speaker 1:Okay so.
Speaker 2:Because there's people who have had jobs.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I know it's hard, and don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but don't forget he may have had a job. He may have had a job. He will have had a job Like bits here and there, but it doesn't mean it was still like breadline, right, like you, and that's, that's a. That's a big problem, like we had americans big problem. We've got here people are working jobs, but he's not paying for the standard, the price of living, so so we're just going to go with the fact that he was just, he was paycheck to paycheck, right big old strugs, right okay however yeah he had one rule for Rocky right he's going to sell the script to whichever company would make it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But one rule was he had to be in it. He would have to be the star of the film.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:I mean it's risky because he had no prior acting experience, so a studio would have to take a real punt on him and he got offered 300 grand to sell the script but not be in it. God Turned it down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would have yeah but you're 300?.
Speaker 1:I know he's 300,000 pounds, but this is back in like 19. Well, rocky, was that's quite a lot of money then. Yeah, it's probably like easily over a million now and you're you go from theoretically poverty, as we've kind of discussed, like asterix next to that, we don't know yeah, but like to being offered like nearly a million in today's money. Are you going to stick with it? You're going to be like, well, if I take that million, I could probably write another thing and then, using that money, can actually fund it myself.
Speaker 2:It's a hard one isn, isn't it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like, but he didn't take it, Rejected it.
Speaker 2:It's his passion project. He's obviously passionate about it. Yeah, and his gut was saying I need to be in this film, so I've got to follow you Well it's about him.
Speaker 1:So he's like who's going to play me except me?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. At the time, though I bet his mates were like are you fucking kidding? Yeah, and I bet he was having sleepless nights.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he would have that much money tortured himself over it.
Speaker 2:The amount of stress that guy would have been under at the time.
Speaker 1:He would have been punching the shit out of that bag. I tell you gosh. However, he did end up selling it, did end up getting it, and do you know what's the first thing you buy him?
Speaker 2:His dog back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2:Oh, he did.
Speaker 1:Bought his dog back and his dog's in the film. Oh, I love that so much. I mean the guy who he sold his dog to made bank because he bought his dog back for three grand.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God 2,950.
Speaker 1:Easy money, easy profit. Flipping hell, isn't it easy profit? And he's in it. So he went from a little you know a little mutt in the you know in the gutter to a movie star not stallone the dog. So yeah, I thought that is like taking a big fucking risk because I don't think I'd have the the sack on me to yeah.
Speaker 2:But then if you're very good at following your gut and you've got to say and this is what is visualized in his head sometimes, you just gotta see it.
Speaker 1:But how many gut followers have just absolutely fucked it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's like taking a leap of faith, isn't it? He did it and it won, and I feel like all leap of faiths actually do do that.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's.
Speaker 2:I do Every leap of faith I've talked, it's been good and it's like yeah. Oh no, there's, I have a one, but I'm still in the middle of that at the minute. I'm like why did this happen? You're still leaping, I'm still leaping, I'm still trying to find out what the answer is, but yeah, no, that's cool.
Speaker 1:Also, if you extend the time from your leap to the eventual land.
Speaker 2:Oh, it could take years.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, fair Leap of faith could take years. Could take two, three, four with that. What the fuck am I doing? But you will get there eventually.
Speaker 1:But then you've got like evil knievel who, like he, all his, his whole thing was taking a leap of faith and he was so shit. You know evil knievel, right? No, the the stuntman, no, he used to like jump over things. No, he used to like take his motorbike and drive really fast up a ramp and then try and get to the other side, but he never succeeded. But people would always turn up to watch him because he was just a spectacle and he ate shit every single time. Like he did it. He tried to jump over the fountains in Vegas and just absolutely stacked it, but what he did I know but that's different though, isn't it?
Speaker 1:It's a leap of faith.
Speaker 2:That's a leap of faith, yeah but it's a different leap of faith, isn't it? That's like saying I'm going to jump off this bridge and hope not to die. It's a leap of faith, Because it could be classily a leap of faith.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But If you leave in a relationship, a job, friendship, country.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They kind of tend to work that way, Well that's it.
Speaker 1:The next person is more modern. I think you've got it because she's been on the radio constantly. Go on, then, chapel Rowan, I'm double hurt by this, because I told you to listen to her album.
Speaker 2:Does anyone know who this person is?
Speaker 1:Everybody knows who Chapel Rowan is. Pink Pony Club Everyone's been singing that song fucking constantly.
Speaker 2:Singing it. I don't know what it is, no.
Speaker 1:Listen to Pink Pony Club. Okay, giddy up, giddy up. You haven't heard that song.
Speaker 2:No, but I like it. It's been everywhere I need to watch.
Speaker 1:I told you about six months ago to listen to Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess. But you know.
Speaker 2:Wait, I did listen to one.
Speaker 1:Nah, I bet it was Pink Pony Club. Let me have a look. What was the name? Chapel Roan. She released her first album in like 2018. Released her first album like 2018, yeah, and then it was doing all right and then she was bobbing along, bobbing along, but then when covid hit and artists weren't touring and they weren't making as much money, a shit ton got dropped. So she atlantic records just completely dropped her and then so I bet at the time she was going through shit oh, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, she went, she went back home and she was um working at a drive-thru, yeah, and I'm not saying, you know, oh, fuck, that it's the worst thing ever, because job's a job. However, I think if you'd been at like that height, you're in a recording studio, you're doing all that, you're having people like bring your drinks and stuff, and then you go back to like where you were beforehand, yeah, you just be like fuck, fuck me, like credit to her for I would just be on a spiral. I'm not fucking, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2:I bet she was, I bet she did find it hard but they still turned up like which is.
Speaker 1:But then she obviously using the money that she made. Obviously this is what you were saying Sylvester Stallone should have done. This is what Stallone needed was a drive-thru. She funded her own album made the album and that's the one there there you go that is going fucking well. Now she's, she's everywhere. I mean not for you, but like she's massive, she's massive well, now I'll add it to my Spotify playlist. Now I quite like that Pink Pony Club.
Speaker 1:This is is it not, then is it we sounds, we this is the most 30 we've sounded. I quite like that pink pony club. Actually I might go visit but, um, yeah, so that is like she going, nearly having it, yeah, and then having it. It's kind of like him being off of 300 grand from script and then having it taken away, oh fuck the.
Speaker 2:Thing is people see success. As you know, people see her like oh God, she's done a few, she's got this song, now she's living that Overnight success? Yeah, overnight, but sometimes it takes so long and people don't realise that success is such a bumpy road and sometimes you hit massive lows. Sometimes you hit massive highs but you don't just get it straight away, and I don't know anyone who has actually done that.
Speaker 1:I really don't.
Speaker 2:People have sleepless nights, people are stressed. People don't know if their work's even going to happen, if anything's going to happen from it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you have what's it called Imposter syndrome. Yeah, where you just like because can you imagine like committing to, if you're doing like comedians are all the time like people are like where's this guy come from? He's been doing the circuit for 20 years, or something fucking stupid? Like can you imagine like you've got the way you tell jokes or the way you do a certain thing? Surely there's got to be times where you're like am I fucking? Is this the right way? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Is this big magic? You know that book I was on about? Oh, don't, I know it, but she was saying um in that book that artists can be um afraid of their own success. So some people will drop an amazing album but then they won't release another album because they're so scared that it's gonna share.
Speaker 1:Oh god, yeah, they won't release another album well, that's, that's the whole thing they talk about, how you have your entire life for your first album, but you have six, about six months for your next one, because the record company be like right yeah, we're gonna strike while they're in start. Let's do it now. I know you took eight years to make your previous album and that's why people love it and you really took your time over it, but we need that magic yeah, but some people don't.
Speaker 2:Now, oh yeah, they can't do it, they choke and, yeah, some people get scared. Yeah, yeah, if someone writes a book, they've had a good book, but then they won't release another book.
Speaker 1:Because how can you follow up on it?
Speaker 2:Exactly, but they don't think they can. But sometimes you can.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, because you could be thinking like, what are the aspects from that book that people loved? Are you then going to really focus on that part in your next book? And then people are like, oh, it's a little bit of a copy of the previous book, they wanted a bit different. You would question yourself so much because you're not just writing for yourself. At that point. You've got your audience, yeah, and that's where you're like I could either run with this now or just be happy with my lot. All I wanted was a book published. It's done. People love it. Quit while I'm ahead. Yeah. But also I didn't just want to focus it all on celebrities, because obviously they're like the big, glamorous, like going, going from rock bottom to, you know, mansions and whatever I kind of wanted to do. Also the people that have made career pivots or career changes or taken the risk, but like in a smaller way, like not having to be like rock bottom to massive, just kind of like Just everyday life.
Speaker 1:Everyday life Because I know someone who's given up on they have like a professor role at university, but they really want to work helping people so they want to be a paramedic. So it's made a pivot across to being a paramedic.
Speaker 2:How's he finding it? Do you know?
Speaker 1:It's a whole thing. It's a whole change up, because the lifestyle's different, the schedule's different, the pay is different.
Speaker 2:As in what is it?
Speaker 1:less, less I thought more time, oh yeah, but you've got to train, haven't you? So you now?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, of course, down to training pay see, would you do that, would you?
Speaker 1:that's the big question, like but would you personally? I know what my answer is gonna be if I saw, if I saw a through line and someone went to me listen, kid, I want to get you on the big screen or whatever. I want to get you working in films. And they go, I've got a studio. Yeah, you're going to have to start right from the bottom, but there's a job there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. I wouldn't, you wouldn't.
Speaker 2:Absolutely not. It depends Leap of yeah, yeah, 100. I wouldn't, you wouldn't, absolutely not. It depends leap of faith no, yeah, but no, but there's, you've got to take calculated risks. So, leap of faith, you've still got to take calculated risks. You've still got to look at the whole big picture you told me.
Speaker 1:You told me that no leap of faith fail you still do leap of faith. You can still do that, so every time no, there's, no, there's no calculations in leap of faith that it's a leap the only calculation is your faith how much faith you have.
Speaker 2:There is go, yeah, but there is a little bit there, absolutely is no you.
Speaker 1:You were talking about faith leaping following your gut and now you're like but but let me get my spreadsheet yeah, no, but you've got no, I'm with you. I'm putting that all. I'm a spreadsheet guy, love Excel. Yeah, but I'm putting that all away if someone was like hey come on.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's a different scenario. But for like me, for instance, I'm in a job where it's based on it's skill, okay, you don't need a degree to do it oh right, okay, I took it as an insult at first.
Speaker 1:I thought you were saying what you're fucking saying about my job.
Speaker 2:No, it's a skill, you work your way up to the top, don't you yeah?
Speaker 1:it's all from previous. Yeah, it's all reputation. Yeah, yeah, your history, sure so I'm at like.
Speaker 2:Quite it's a well-paid job. When you're good in sales, it's well paid you can get by, and I love living a good life right and they say money doesn't bring happiness, but I've been so poor before in my life and it was shit. I was miserable, where now I'm comfortable in life. I wouldn't say I'm rich. I'm not, definitely not rich, but I'm just saying I can put my heat on whenever I want I can go to the shop. I don't really need to budget. I can just go and get whatever food I want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 2:And I can book a holiday. I can go on holiday a couple of times a year if I want to, and I like being in that place.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then to say, right, Charlotte, say, if I wanted to go into a retrain and have to get a degree, I couldn't do it. I couldn't be in survival mode again. I've been there, done that and I've got myself out again. I wouldn't go through it again.
Speaker 1:Theoretically, if you're taking a measured leap of faith. Obviously you've got what you've earned so far. You've got, hopefully, some savings behind you. Maybe it's like the more yeah, but to get savings again is quite hard. It takes a lot. That's what I'm going to tighten my belt Absolutely. Yeah, I'm going to tighten my belt just nicely budget, put quite a bit of money behind me, a little bit of a safety net. Then I'm going to go out. I'm going to get that degree alongside work can still do it alongside you can work out in night class or whatever. Then I'll come out of it and hopefully my degree will lead to this job in this field I want to do, yeah, you know, for therapy or whatever. I think I feel that we spoke about you wanted to do something like that. I think it'd be quite good that. And then you start. You start your own firm from you know that's different.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing, yeah, but that's not quitting my job tomorrow.
Speaker 1:I'm like right, okay, no because that's ridiculous and then because you need, you need calculated about doing it because there's also because we can be quite rash sometimes, like people can be like oh fuck this job, this job's getting in the way of me being successful however, making you depressed sure, but no, no, I'm saying like people will just go, like the reason that I'm not a famous movie star is because I'm in this job and I'm stuck doing this job, so they'll quit the job, but the movie star isn't.
Speaker 1:I'm in this job and I'm stuck doing this job, so they'll quit the job, but the movie star rot isn't just going to happen and they've got no safety net. It's the safety net that you'd need. So I'm with you on the measured leap of faith. Just about 10 minutes ago, you were like nah fuck it, just jump.
Speaker 2:I probably wasn't explaining myself properly. In my head I see it completely different, but you've got to like tell them the listeners just fucking go for it. No, absolutely not You've got to obviously plan.
Speaker 1:You guys go first, you've got to plan strategically. Yeah, of course Absolutely, and that's why I end up on your ass.
Speaker 2:No it's like if I say, if I wanted to be like, write my own little book or something, I wouldn't take a year, I think, fuck it, I'm going to basically go. But I'm going to deplete all my savings and I'm just going to go live somewhere, write a book and then hope it makes some money. I would work and then I'd be dedicated with my time and do it in the evenings and make sure I do it at the weekends like this.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, like what we're doing, like little passion projects.
Speaker 2:yeah, it's like little passion projects. Yeah, I love it. It makes you happy doesn't it?
Speaker 1:Oh, it does, oh, this weekly catch-up.
Speaker 2:Oh, doesn't it? I'm buzzing, he's crying. He's crying. He doesn't like it.
Speaker 1:I'm buzzing when Wednesday wakes up. When Wednesday wakes up, when Wednesday gets here, the kids come in they say good morning. I say get out of it's podcast day. All right, it doesn't do with you today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but do you, do you wake up like, oh yeah, recording tonight?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I like it. When we've got it all planned out, we know what's going on.
Speaker 2:I like it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so I get it Measured, risk having a leap, and obviously Stallone probably took measured risks, you know, having you know 10 cent noodles or whatever just like, so he could get by and blah, blah, blah. Fair enough yeah but obviously stallone should have just got a job. See, I've got a question for you, okay?
Speaker 2:so there's a guy. He left his last right. I'll give you a bit of context below sure he left his last job about a year ago for a 17k pay rise, which is quite a juicy amount and effectively a promotion title at a new company. He was at his last job for about two years and was quite well respected, in fact to this very day. Sorry, my voice got weird.
Speaker 2:It was his favorite job okay so ever since I started this new job, I have not really liked it. Initially I absolutely hated, absolutely hated it. Then at one point I sucked it up and actually didn't mind it as such. However, recently, after my manager has been grilling me as to what I am doing on a day-to-day basis and just the wider office politics, I'm actually starting to hate the place a lot now. I miss my old job and my old colleagues. Yes, I was not very well paid, but I was actually happy in my life. Me writing this post as a grown-ass man is making me sad and heartbroken. As surprising as it may sound, is any of this normal? Should I quit my job now, as it does have a three-month period, and look elsewhere? I have around 90k worth of savings.
Speaker 2:Oh, check it out just retire mate as such, yet other than student loan, what would you suggest he do?
Speaker 1:well, it's one of those.
Speaker 2:I mean it clears down now what you're doing you reckon, bin it off.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing is he said if he sucked it up, it's weird, he goes. I absolutely hated it. Then I sucked it up, it's weird, he goes. I absolutely hated it. Then I sucked it up and I quite enjoyed it. And then my boss was asking me what I was doing day to day. So is he shirking? Is he like being like if you get asked what you're doing day to day and you're like fucking hate this place, it means you're probably just fucking slinging the lead. So part of me is just like grass is grass isn't green. On the other side, the grass is green the way you water it right. So commit to the bit, do the job and just see where you're at in six months, in a year, whatever. Give it a year, fine, or. But I'm also like he did have a good job, but he was enjoying it. He was enjoying the job back there. How much is that 17k different? We?
Speaker 1:don't just wait, hang on, hang on, he don't just started the job right, yeah and he's already got 90 grand in savings no from previous yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 1:It's not like he was living hand to mouth. On his previous paycheck he was doing well, very well, because he had 90 grand savings. Okay, maybe he's earned I don't know an extra, say 17, call it, call it 73 grand savings. He had, right, yeah, um, so he was clearly doing fine at the other job, which he enjoyed, and he was a big name on campus. Maybe that's what that. Okay, there's loads of things he's having a bit of an. He's having ego death here. Yeah, he was a big name on campus, people loved him and now he's a small fish, big pond, and he's happy with it. He liked being, he'd like being known. He liked being trusted. Now his boss is checking up on him. He doesn't like it. He liked the free reign, yeah. So what are you doing? You quitting? You staying?
Speaker 2:I mean, if he's saying he's not enjoying it and he was not really, because he said he didn't really enjoy it, then he liked it. He kind of was okay for a bit. They didn't like it, it's a bit wishy-washy, isn't it? That's saying there's no passion there, he's not happy, he's got three months. Find a new job and just get out of there. I wouldn't quit tomorrow just because he's got savings.
Speaker 1:Find a new job and get out of there. No, I'm saying go back to the last job, why not Bring him back? And you know, saw him right out.
Speaker 2:But there again he left his last job. For a reason I've always said this Crash is greener. It's like going back to an ex-boyfriend. You just don't do it.
Speaker 1:You can't go home again, can you?
Speaker 2:That's the thing, you just don't do it Well depends, though, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:I mean, let's not even argue about he goes back and everyone's like oh you're back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's his ego, shouldn't it? He shouldn't be.
Speaker 1:No, but he sounds like a guy with a bit of an ego. Yeah, that removes ego. It's hard to do. It's attached.
Speaker 2:But he left that job. Though he left that job for a reason. There was a reason for him to leave.
Speaker 1:It was company, which means he wasn't really getting paid well in his last job maybe he was getting paid well because he's got 90 grand in savings he's doing fine. But he was saying it wasn't that well paid. There was a reason. Well, yeah, that's that. That's a matter of perspective. What he classes as not well paid in his big name on campus job, someone may be like fuck, I wish I was getting off of that came from okay, I don't know, I know.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, once I see his financial statements, then I can make a decision Either way.
Speaker 2:I think so you're saying suck it up, carry it on.
Speaker 1:He's coming across as a moody teenager. To be honest, he's a certain, but he's coming across as a moody teenager. Some days you're going to chat with the teenager and they're going to be all happy and want to talk to you. The next day they're going to be like I hate you, why do you even exist? And that's him with his job. He wakes up in the morning. Maybe he just needs to sort out other aspects of his life and he'll be more level, rather than this flippy floppy. I hate it, I love it.
Speaker 2:I hate it. I mean, the thing is, I don't, I don't think Job's a job mate. No, but it's not Because you dedicate Quite a lot of your years To life, absolutely so you've got to be happy. And do you know what? There is a massive world Out there. There is so many doors you can knock on and you don't even know Half the joy that can come from Knocking on them doors. I've seen it before.
Speaker 1:Well, he can start knocking then.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Knock on his head Fucking. Knock some sense into him.
Speaker 2:No, don't, poor Keith, poor Keith.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's 30. He's one of us. He's not enjoying it, so just go and get a new job.
Speaker 2:Okay, get yourself out there.
Speaker 1:You show me besides you, you show me people who just go in the morning like work. Today, this is just what a day, what a day to be alive. No one's doing it.
Speaker 2:I think they are.
Speaker 1:You're doing it. Yeah, well, that's it.
Speaker 2:I have done it everyone.
Speaker 1:You don't go, snow White, like the birds come and lift you bloody yeah but you've got to have an element of happiness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course you've got to have passion.
Speaker 1:You want to do well and stuff but like tomorrow, tomorrow my big day is I've got to go collect some stuff from a farm oh, lovely yeah, but it's like it's an indifference to it, you get to see the farm animals I might see a cow or two, yeah, and there is a house across the way, yeah, that you look at it.
Speaker 1:And I was like, and it tripped me out because they've what they've got for some reason I don't know why they've got a um statue, but it doesn't look like a statue, it's like a. I will do, it's a. It's a dog curled up, but it's on the roof. So I genuinely thought there was just a dog just chilling on this roof and I said is that dog? And the farmer just looked at me like that's an absolute fucking idiot it's like you city boy get out of here putting a dog on his roof.
Speaker 2:I thought, that's what I thought. Is that dog alright anyway, what was I saying?
Speaker 1:I'm saying I don't have a. Oh my god, best day ever. I also don't have a. I can't be arsed, I have an indifference to it see, that's good indifference well, it's best.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're not waking up.
Speaker 1:I hate this job well, like some people would hate it, it's just I'd love that. Exactly, it's great.
Speaker 2:Put music on.
Speaker 1:Put podcasts on the way down, podcasts on the way back. Fine, throw it all.
Speaker 2:We saw from singing, it'll be absolutely fine, we've only got so much time for reflection as well.
Speaker 1:Stop off for a Taco Bell in Northampton. I'll be fine You're living the dream Exactly so financial sacrifices for success and for change Are you making them? Yeah, I think, do you get your passion projects yep like the podcast, but you don't need to throw it all in.
Speaker 2:You know you don't need to throw it all in for one thing because, yeah, you've got to just go after what you want and just make sure that you're doing the best thing and make sure you're getting the money coming in if you don't know, you don't know what the best thing is, this is, this is the conflict, the inner conflict if you don't put yourself out there, you'll never know that's it.
Speaker 1:And look at us. We're out there, we're on your phones, we're in your ears right now we're just bonkers.
Speaker 2:I know it's mad, but yeah, so that's where I stand this is it, I'd say.
Speaker 1:We're taking a risk now. This is a big cringe risk.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, the biggest cringe risk ever huge cringe risk right now.
Speaker 1:I've never seen my face more than doing this. It's always I'm just looking at me. I need to take it off selfie mode. To be honest, it might be less like hello, but yeah. So this is the cringe risk. That's where we're at with the financial risks I would. We're both taking measured risks. We're both little measured people. Like we're dipping a toe before we take the leap of faith alright, no, we're both little measured people. We're dipping a toe before we take the leap of faith, all right, no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're testing the water You're carrying on a bit longer, you're testing the water before you dive in.
Speaker 2:Well, no, because sometimes you can't test the water, You've just got to know.
Speaker 1:You're flip-flopping on what you're saying. You've got to go.
Speaker 2:I'm going to test the water before I fully commit to the job, yeah, but Before I fully commit to the job, you can't quit your job. No, that's the testing.
Speaker 1:You're putting your toe in. That's the test.
Speaker 2:By doing it around your work A little bit slowly.
Speaker 1:You're slowly walking into the pool rather than diving straight in.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's so many metaphors flying about. Yeah, either way, we both love a spreadsheet, so we're taking measured leaps of faith. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Leaps of faith? Yes, absolutely, but definitely take them leaps of faith.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that Was our episode.
Speaker 2:Sorry guys, sorry, that bit wacky Wacky, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:Sorry, sorry for that one, guys, thanks for listening, and sorry again. No, but once again we have to. Here's our extra Cringe moment. We have to do the whole beggy bit when we say Please give us Five stars, please tell your friends, tell everyone you know about it, send it to your email list or however people do it these days, just share it.
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