
30 Old 30 Young
30 Old 30 Young explores the fascinating contrasts of life in your thirties through the eyes of two cousins living vastly different paths. Join us as we navigate the uncertainties of adult life, from career choices to lifestyle decisions, through both a globetrotting adventurer's and a family-focused perspective.
Our main episodes dive deep into real-life challenges facing thirty-somethings today, while our mini-episodes break down the three best and worst aspects of pivotal adult life scenarios.
Whether you're questioning your life choices, seeking perspective, or just wanting to hear honest conversations about adulting, this podcast offers authentic insights into the beautiful chaos of your third decade. New episodes released weekly, featuring raw discussions about career transitions, relationships, mental health, and the endless quest for work-life balance. Your thirties don't come with a manual - but this podcast comes pretty close.
30 Old 30 Young
Top 3 - Things to leave in 2024
A sneak peek into one of our bonus episodes. What if we told you that saying no could be the secret ingredient to a more fulfilling life?
Join us as we embark on a lively chat about the things we're vowing to leave behind in 2024 (when we say lively, you’ll see what we mean when you listen) 🫣
Tune in for an honest and relatable discussion on managing time, commitments, and the quest to keep our personal interests alive.
Thanks for Listening, find more content at our Instagram @30old30young
So, ooh, it's the bonus section. Ooh, yeah, we'll work on what sound effect it is Ba-ba-ba. Oh yeah, ding-a-da-da-ding Bonus section welcome. So the bonus this episode is going to be I we're dumping and leaving in 2024. I've left it. It's gone Dead to me.
Speaker 2:I mean mine's, my career.
Speaker 1:You're just going to leave your career behind.
Speaker 2:I'm joking.
Speaker 1:She's a nomad. She's going to live in a van. So what's your first one? No, you go. First.
Speaker 2:I want to know what your vibe is on this. I want to hear yours first. Okay, what your vibe is on this. I want to hear yours first.
Speaker 1:Okay, first thing I'm leaving behind in 2024 is shit TV, right? I know you don't like talking about TV, I'm not going to go into it too much.
Speaker 2:It's okay if it helps.
Speaker 1:You tell Auntie Charlotte if if I'm going to just go, if I'm not enjoying it, I'm just because what I'll do is I'll start watching something and someone will say it's great, you've got to watch it. You've just got to stick with it for like three episodes. Like, if it's taking three hours for me to start to enjoy something, I'm out. If it's taking two hours, if you're not getting me in the first 20 minutes of your episode, I'm done and we can't leave you hanging on the.
Speaker 2:If I didn't like something, it's off. That's it, if you like the Halloween one you got me to watch.
Speaker 1:You didn't even last 15 seconds.
Speaker 2:And maybe 20.
Speaker 1:But okay, maybe I'm going to go a little bit in between. I'll give your shit show an episode and if it's great I'll watch. I'll tell you, I'll watch the whole thing. If you suggest something to me and it's 10, solid, show that and we can have a chat about it. But if it hasn't grabbed me, I'm leaving it behind because I'm wasting too much time watching shite TV. Okay, you do that. That sounds good and, by the way, disclaimer, that is TV that's not meant to be shit but is shit. I will watch that shit TV because that's meant to be crap, it's meant to be disgusting. But if you're, if you're like what do you call it Emmy bait, and you're still shit, I'm turning it off.
Speaker 2:See, I love that Married at first sight, off straight.
Speaker 1:Solid shit, solid gold, shot like that. Yeah, that's it. It's the only shit I've. I do just as it goes on, like once the drama kind of becomes more fake, I do kind of go. I don't care who stays together. I'm very like that at the minute. Yeah, you kind of just go. I don't care about your commitment ceremony. We know you're all leaving each other.
Speaker 2:We know you're not, you've googled evidence.
Speaker 1:I followed some of you on Instagram. I already know that you're shagging someone else now, so I'm out one, okay go to number two. I have no idea what do you mean You've got none Okay?
Speaker 2:leave it behind in 2024.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Too many takeaways.
Speaker 1:You're leaving takeaways behind. Wow, so I'm going to have one, one a week Weekly takeaway. Then it becomes more special, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, just make sure I'm having one a week, not two.
Speaker 1:What you do is you get one a week, you order enough for leftovers and then you've got three a week.
Speaker 2:If you met me leftovers.
Speaker 1:Do you not do leftovers?
Speaker 2:No, I've gobbled it all up.
Speaker 1:No, no. But if you, if you ordered like enough for five, would you eat the leftovers? I just order it again. If one's in at the takeaway, you don't eat leftovers. Well, I honestly I never have leftovers. Okay, say you have hypothetically crazy imagination. Say there's leftovers, would you eat them the next day? Yeah, yeah, because some people are like oh, absolutely not. Luke's a big no-no on leftovers, he's dead against it.
Speaker 2:Luke's, jake's brother-in-law my brother-in-law.
Speaker 1:He's dead against it. Yeah, for the Patreon, this is inside scoop. Yeah, he's dead against it. And I'm like mate, I'll bring an order of pizza on a monday and have it like tuesday, wednesday you know why, not tuesday, maybe not? Wednesday. Ah fine, christ, I'll have it in your monday and I'll eat it friday. Don't matter, that's what it is. I'm fine, iron stomach mate, absolutely fine, you can leave it. Oh, like it's just chicken, people meal prep, people meal prep for the week and they've got chicken that sat there for seven days.
Speaker 2:Ugh.
Speaker 1:You know. So what if my butter chicken's still there? I see what you mean. I see what you mean. So you're leaving takeaways behind-ish. Ish yeah, I am taking. I'm leaving behind over-committing, I'm going to start saying no more. I'm going to start saying no more. Oh, I like this. And by no, I mean, if you ask me to do something and I don't fancy doing it, I'm not going to come up with an elaborate story as to why I don't want to do it, I'm just going to go. No, you're right, actually.
Speaker 2:Oh, so I hate people who are like that yeah. You know, I just don't get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because if it's and I'm like no, I'm not doing that. Well, no, because I'm a people pleaser, right, yeah, but you're not people pleasing, because people know you don't want to be there and you'll make an excuse or you'll be ill on the day. Just say no.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I'll always say ahead of time I'll never be on the day like sorry, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but do you ever say yes? But then just try not to go see, I hate that it pisses me off and it's like, oh god, don't get me even started. But just you know what these things just say it. It's like when you're trying to plan something and everyone's like oh, I don't know, it all goes quiet. Just say I'm busy, and then let me plan I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what I yeah and what I'm in love with right now.
Speaker 2:Actually people would be more happy. Sorry, you've got me on a rant right now Go, go, go off. The people would be more happy if you just like. No, I'm busy, I can't do that. That is people pleasing, because you make people happy Doing what you're up to and it pisses them off.
Speaker 1:Or crazy idea. They go oh, do you fancy doing this on Friday? Ah shit, busy Friday night. Do you want to do it Saturday instead? Are you free? And you counter with a different like obviously, if there's something set in stone like, oh, they're going to like they got two tickets to the theatre on Friday night, you can't go. What about Saturday? You know they can't just chop like you suggest another thing rather than being like nah, but we will catch up soon. That can fuck off as well, that's a little side one.
Speaker 1:They're like oh, we should get drinks sometime.
Speaker 2:Oh god, okay, okay say a date, then I just hate people like that because you know they don't want to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah say a date, go on a day a day to say a date, because there's people that are like, oh well, we can't do that, that's too soon. I've got some stuff on, okay, what about three months from now? And they go, that's too far ahead. I don't know what I'll be doing. I know, just say no and stop wasting my time. How about if we plan for drinks in March next year? That's what you'll be doing in March next year, because no one's got. No one is that organised that they've got stuff Shut up.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I could run by this one oh don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this Patreon mini episode is longer than the main. Honestly, that's my second one, so overcommitting. I'm going to say no more, not make up shit reasons and just. But if I don't want to do it and it's not a slight on the person if I don't want to do it, it might just be something I don't want to do, like the didn't want to do it and in a way luckily for her, she caught hand, foot and mouth off Coop and wasn't able to do the walk.
Speaker 1:And in hindsight, having then done the walk after that, I realised this wouldn't have been as nice a walk. If this sounds terrible, if Coop had been there he was too young to do it we would have. I mean, you could have put him in a backpack, you would have enjoyed it, yeah, but then we would have got back to the pub afterwards. We want to have a little relax. I would just say that, and he was going to be trying to get into everything and it just wouldn't have been the relax we needed afterwards, the decompress after the walk. Right, agreed. So it's saying to mum like well, me and Bryn will do it, it'll be fine, and just being able to be like, nah, you know, nah, yeah, and he's trying to do something Because I love the walk. Yeah, I mean, I had to lug Bryn up the hill constantly, you know, and she was on my shoulders for an hour and 50 minutes, but it was great. Good memories, yeah.
Speaker 2:See, I must admit I do love that, the fact that, like if I don't want to do something, I'll just say no, that's good.
Speaker 1:Honestly, that's such a hard Because there seems to be no in-betweeners either. People who say yes to everything like that will be me, and a lot of the time I am saying yes to everything, not because I'm inclined just to always say yes, because I do want to do things, I do want to pop to the pub, I do want to go out for a meal, but it's when you've already done a lot of stuff, you're already knackered. You kind of just want to have a night in. I want to have a night in with brie or something like that. And then I, and then someone pops up and go, oh, do you want to do this? I'm going, yeah, all right, you know when, really what you do need is a night in a little little decompress. What you do need is that like to just say, now, all alright, tonight, mate, I'll do you know something else. But I do love a little bit of a social.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, oh, yeah, go on, then fuck it, let's do it yeah, and sometimes it is best to do say if, like you can't be asked to do something, you're feeling lazy. Sometimes it is best just to go and get it, just force yourself out that's it.
Speaker 1:So I don't want to over commit to things and start saying no more, but I also do love doing stuff, so it's like I'm catching on to it if you're happy to do it yeah, yeah, if I it's like right, another rant coming.
Speaker 2:Why am I just running about everything right now in this picture? I've unleashed something sorry but it's like if you're in a relationship, right okay and sometimes if people like If they want to do something, say, if they want to take up a hobby, they want to golf. No, not golf, just go painting.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:And their partner's like well, I don't want you to do that, because then you're not going to spend time with me.
Speaker 1:Ditch that person.
Speaker 2:Wow, yes, but some people do.
Speaker 1:But also it depends, because if Could be married with five kids, well, no, what is that? Is this the seventh hobby this week, you know? Is your partner going to commit to this hobby? Because if you say to me, if you say to me, I want to take up this, I'll go, that's cool. But if you go and then the next day you come to me and go, I want to take up this, I'll be like yesterday you just bought a load of oil paints and now you want to do this other thing. Yeah, just bought a load of oil paints.
Speaker 2:And now you want to do this other thing?
Speaker 1:yeah, if people want it, if people are trying to find what makes them happy, they want to, sure, sure, but if you pick something up and put it down five minutes later, you haven't tried, you haven't really given the hobby a go, you know well, yeah, it depends what works with the person, though, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, but if your house is just going to break, I'm saying this as a person who picks hobbies up and drops them five minutes later. I'm saying this as a I'm a double agent here. I do this. There is At our house. There is paddle rackets, baseball gloves. I play baseball over here. I know In Long Eaton Park I play baseball. That's right, that's the lick of mine?
Speaker 2:Is it because you're trying to find something that's making?
Speaker 1:you happy. I love a little project. I mean that's what this is. And then, when I was, when I was doing this, because I've been doing this and then, like my friends have been saying like oh, we're thinking about doing this, I'm like I'm in what we're doing. You know, I, I am, I love a little, I love a little project, I love a little social project, and so that's and that's part of it. It's like I like, I like the social aspects of things. That makes a hobby for me so much easier to get stuck into. If it's a solo hobby, it's harder for me to do it If I had. And this isn't something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but even if you enjoy it, Well, it depends.
Speaker 1:No, because I used to enjoy playing video games, but now I'll put it on and I'll play for five minutes and be like this isn't doing it. Yeah, that's it, I've grown out of it, I guess. Yeah, but or maybe it's the wrong video game. I've got to stop buying bloody FIFA every year. But you know, it's something like I am more inclined to do a hobby. That's a group thing, for sure. Yeah, to do the hobby. And and if you've got like a gym, if you've got a gym partner, I would definitely go to the gym more if I had a gym partner, for sure.
Speaker 2:However, they get you out the door, don't?
Speaker 1:they yeah, it's the scheduling on the, on the gym partner. If you have a gym partner it doesn't really, doesn't really commit that much to it and you're like, if they start, am, I am a hobby person. I, like I said, our house is a graveyard, a museum of sorts of of hobbies gone by. You know, I've got, I've got, I've got golf clubs. I got, I got a good set of golf clubs, but that that is down to the shoulder. I physically can't do it right now until my shoulder gets better. So that one I'm not taking the l on because I was quite enjoying that and we would get. We were going golfing like just to the driving range like once a week. That was quite nice and that was a nice little social thing.
Speaker 1:I don't do anything like that you do shit loads of social things though yeah, but when it comes to hobbies I wouldn't say I'm like so what are your, what are your type of hobbies then? Oh wow I realise we've gone massively off track from where we started, but that's what Patreon's all about. Welcome, I'm not editing any of this, oh shit so what's the question?
Speaker 1:I don't know I might edit this bit. So no, yeah, you do loads of social things, so you're not going to look for social hobbies because you already do all the social sociies outside of that. So you can do solo hobbies because you've got the social down pat, whereas, oh, maisie, you're scared, but maybe it's yeah, but it's hobbies in general yeah. No, you can do the solo hobbies, because I think your social battery is constantly charging. I don't even do solo hobbies what the fuck do you?
Speaker 1:oh, you don't do anything. No, oh yeah, but you want but writing. Writing's a hobby like reading. I guess listening to music, driving, travelling, that is my hobby yeah not like golf, it's not like it's not like a thing you can do weekly. Yeah, I do love a sport, I do love well. Yeah, man versus fat. I love a sport. Yeah, so fine, fine, and then go on name something else. You're leaving in 2024, you've got. I've done two. You've got one. What's your second?
Speaker 2:leaving in 2024 wait, wait, wait wait oh gosh, I might have it written down somewhere. I don't actually know right oh no, I actually was even reflecting earlier and it was just about wins in 2024 that I had, but not not leaving, okay, um, well, just, I will also get rid of.
Speaker 1:What else am I leaving in 2024?
Speaker 2:um, um, oh, double texting oh, what about voice notes and how long you send voice notes?
Speaker 1:I'm joking, no, no, the voice note thing. I'm joking.
Speaker 2:I'm literally joking because I know you said it to me before.
Speaker 1:Yeah the voice note thing. This is a little inside joke. When Charlotte and I are discussing what we should be talking, about I get my own podcast. I send Charlotte mini podcasts about the podcast and I don't do voice notes.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure about my name, trust me. It's on two and I'm still there half an hour later.
Speaker 1:I'm joking. No, it's true though but the only person I send voice notes to is Charlotte, so I'm out of practice. I don't know how to do it, because a lot of the time I'm doing it I'm sending you the voice note. I've locked it because I do the drag up thing to lock it. That's a problem. Yeah, I know, and so I drag it and it's going along and I'm just driving and I'm like, oh, what's that car doing? And so you know.
Speaker 2:I'm there on the trip with it. You're like fuck you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, voice notes, but double texting, if I text someone and say, fancy, doing this, whatever, and then it's like a day later and no response.
Speaker 2:I'm not following up anymore.
Speaker 1:A day. Phones are always in. I know no one that is a nomad, who doesn't have a phone or never has a phone with them. Everyone I know has a phone at arm's length. That's a hard one. That is what do you mean? If they're in the jungle or something like that and they're away from service, fine.
Speaker 2:What about if they're having a really shit day?
Speaker 1:For 24 hours.
Speaker 2:They could be having a shit week. They've been to sleep, yeah but they can wake up and still be in a shit mood.
Speaker 1:I think if it's in business not expecting a text back, fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people might not be asked. I feel like, if you do like, okay, can you just do a bit more, just in case someone can't be asked or they're having a bad moment?
Speaker 1:Okay, if you don't reply within 48 hours to a text, I'm not following up. Okay, I think that's fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to be fair.
Speaker 1:I. I think that's valid because I'm not going to lie. It's the same people that don't reply whenever they text you and they need some information. They're like, well, what do you reckon? And then they'll like, keep hammering you and you're like, well, and then you, and then you reply back to them after they spent ages replying, and then they don't reply again for ages. So it's kind of like I might just fuck you off. Yeah, I.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then some people do have a lot going on in their lives.
Speaker 1:Everyone has a lot going on in their lives.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but some people react differently to it.
Speaker 1:Right Some people have worse things than others. Okay, but.
Speaker 2:And I have family members, for instance.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And they? You know I write to them and I probably won't hear back. I might drop them another one.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay, they're like quite old, but well, there you go, okay, so that's a different story well then I messaged them again.
Speaker 2:They're not doing it to like be cruel or anything, no, but they're elderly, they're elderly.
Speaker 1:I'm not texting any nans yeah, but they still act as if they're like 40 but does their technology skill act like they're 40 or do they act like they're elderly? Do they know how to right click on a computer? Probably not. Yeah, you know one of them. So that's why they're going to be slow at texting, because I've seen an old person text. It does take them 48 hours to reply. My dad's a nightmare with it, you know.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I just think sometimes people might be going through a hard time and then they might not be messaging, might be stuck in their own head or something, it just depends. I think you've got to look at the whole picture.
Speaker 1:Right, but at the same time Give me a scenario.
Speaker 2:Can you not give me a scenario?
Speaker 1:I can give you a scenario. I can just go.
Speaker 2:Here we go, guys, I go fancy the pub on Friday. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Then I send this Monday or something. Monday or Tuesday, oh, that's shit.
Speaker 2:Okay, no reply Thursday. Oh no, sorry, sorry, I didn't see this. Shut up.
Speaker 1:Not you Shut up. Sorry, I didn't see this. Fuck off, you did, you did. Everyone sees everything that goes on their phone. Do people Right? This is a little side note. This is a little side note.
Speaker 1:I'm forgetting things and I'm going to say do people who read things on their home screen and then don't open it in WhatsApp think they're fucking fooling anyone? I know you've read it, you know. When you just open it on the home screen and you look and you go, yeah, not now, and then you you go back to it later, fine, and sometimes it is a not now. I have my phone in driving mode, so when texts come through I don't get them.
Speaker 2:I think messages, you know when it comes through as a text message. I forget those a lot People message me on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a dead app. That's why, yeah, yeah, I'm like why are you texting? Why are you got a burner?
Speaker 2:It's honestly I mean. That's why I do miss the messages.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I am back. That is one, because I'm like oh shit, yeah, they did text me for some fucking reason.
Speaker 2:It comes up on your phone and it goes off, and then you forget this one if you've not even checked it.
Speaker 1:It's not even on my bottom bar anymore to plan something for Tuesday. If you're just having a shit time, be like don't really feel it, mate, not really feeling it.
Speaker 2:This is what I mean when you're on about being a people, pleaser just tell people straight, because I have. I've had friends right who are like we've got to buy tickets for something. I'm like, do you want to go to this? And I don't hear anything. I'm like, fucking, message me back now. Tickets are going to get sold out that is what I'm saying, so that's what I say so.
Speaker 2:I say if I'm going to plan something, I will say to them right, I've got. There's a bottomless brunch. Need to book tickets. Let me know by 5pm today. If you don't message me back, I'll go. I'll book with someone else right put a time limit on it when you message them fair enough. So if they've got things going on in their life, well then, you're an arsehole, aren't you, if you book it with someone else.
Speaker 2:But no but you put a time limit on it. So when they see it they're like, oh shit, it's gonna send it's all very fucking business, isn't it? It's a sense of urgency, isn't it? Just have more urgency, then just do it anyway yeah, but if you have a time limit on something, even if you feel like shit, it's like, oh shit, like the warning thing has gone off in your head and then you're like I've got a message back, so just put that on.
Speaker 1:What? So you think like hitting them with like the Slack app and being like, right, you need, I need to respond, whatever they're dealing with, will just get pushed to one side and they'll respond, because big respond by five, otherwise this, this friendship, is terminated. You know, it's a hard one, because I've got, I've got friends that are just, I've got people that it's not malice in their lack of texting back, they're just very casual and they just have. They seem to have like no concept of time and and this isn't you, but it's it's it's other people where they're just like I think it is. It's other people where they're just like, hey, man, like it doesn't matter, like I'll see you, I'll see you at the pub if I see you, that kind of thing it's like. But you can't be like that, it's just. Then I've got to sort out our babysitters. What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 2:it's like it happened to me the other day and I hate it. Look, do you want to go do this Saturday night? And, like you're saying, if they don't respond back to you, but, they say yeah, I can do something, so you've got that time. But then they don't fully commit and it's like well, can you let me know?
Speaker 1:It's like are we doing it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that really does get me a bit annoyed or they commit the day before.
Speaker 1:so the things you can actually book have all exactly like cinema wicked like we're going last minute, then great, okay. Oh, I love sitting right at the front of the fucking screen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stupid is it honestly if there's anyone listening? And you know we can all do it sometimes, but if you do it sometimes, I don't care what's going on in your life, dickhead no, I'm just like too much, yeah, a bit too much too much?
Speaker 1:okay, dickheads respond. I'm not going to lie, I'm a tough person if you go oh it's busy, mate, sorry, I'm just busy, it's been a rough one you know, I'm there, I'm someone that you can you can talk to about why it's been a rough one. You know I'm that guy.
Speaker 2:Open up, talk to me but then you weren't the other day. That's like Jacob, you know, so am I. Well, I, charlotte, it's okay, don't worry, I didn't think any of that, did I?
Speaker 1:sorry, I forgot about the whole couple of princesses that live here. Fucking hell Jesus yeah, but work.
Speaker 2:As you know, work can be very hard sometimes it takes a lot of time, truly yes, but people are. You're doing it again what. We're all at work, we're all at work. People have different pressures at work. We're all at work. We all have different pressures at work. Everyone's got different pressures, haven't they? Sometimes, some pressures can be.
Speaker 1:I own the company. If I fuck it up, it's gone.
Speaker 2:Yes, but it's the same job, the whole thing's gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you get a new job. If you ruin that company you work for now you go for a different one. This recruit me, I don't think about that. There you go, peace out, see. Ya. See you, mom, see ya. Well, that was our first actual patreon episode, uh, and it's. I think it was longer than our our actual episode. So cheers for joining. If you subscribe to this, you're lovely and thank you, and we're going to start doing shout-outs in future episodes once people start subscribing. So another ciao-ciao to you lot.
Speaker 2:Thanks everyone, Bye-bye.
Speaker 1:Ciao-ciao. There you go. I was waiting for your ciao-ciao.
Speaker 2:I'm really dirty, oh, my goodness. Oh, you've leveled up.
Speaker 1:I've leveled up.
Speaker 2:All the else is going to.
Speaker 1:Italy Sauce sauce, mate. There you go one hour one hour one fucking hell.
Speaker 2:That's like two episodes no, but that's the.
Speaker 1:We had a little bit a lot of episodes.
Speaker 2:I actually I feel like you know when you do it.