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Christmas at 30: A Survival Guide

Jake Martini & Charlotte McGuire Season 1 Episode 11

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Balancing joy and peace across family dynamics can be a holiday challenge, but we share insights and anecdotes that highlight the importance of nurturing supportive relationships during this festive time. 

Whether it’s the logistics of juggling multiple family visits or the freedom single individuals find in crafting their own holiday plans, we explore how personal happiness takes center stage. 

Our experiences illustrate the beauty of spending the holidays with those who bring comfort, whether it’s family, friends, or our beloved pets. 

Join us as we unwrap the true essence of the holidays, celebrating the memories that bind us and the new traditions we create.

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Speaker 1:

two cousins taking different life paths discuss the highs and lows of being in your 30s, and nothing is off limits. This is life in your 30s.

Speaker 2:

This is 30 old, 30 young when do you start gearing up for christmas?

Speaker 3:

I mean, I already am.

Speaker 2:

Are you Christmas shopping done?

Speaker 3:

No, are you?

Speaker 2:

Christmas shopping done. That's not a sentence.

Speaker 3:

I used to always wait to the end, but now I don't really know when I'm going to get it done. I'm thinking about it. I hate buying presents. I'm just not like, I just hate buying presents.

Speaker 2:

Have you done the Secret Santa?

Speaker 3:

No, I haven't done the secret Santa. Yet someone's going to be sad. Oh no, I haven't done Christmas of course, but no, I've not done it yet? No, obviously we do so just to let everyone know we're doing like secret Santa as a family.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, as a family, not just as a podcast yeah yeah, so oh, look at her anyway.

Speaker 3:

So we're doing secret Santa as a family. And, jake, do you know who yours is? Because I think there's been a few whispers already I know who.

Speaker 2:

Oh, who's got me. Yeah, no, you don't know. No, I know I could probably work it out, go on then, no, go on ruin it.

Speaker 3:

Well, I know Holly's got me. Oh has she yeah, because I've already had my secret Santa oh shit, I knew that I brought it down to London oh did you yeah she got me some party rings like massive the long tube of party rings. I finished them all within a week.

Speaker 2:

Ate the lot the yard, was it? It's not even a yard, it's a meter. You saw it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, was it a meter? Was it a meter?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Fuck it now. I had it in a week, Less than a week.

Speaker 2:

Just absolutely, yeah, fair enough. Either way, we can't go into Secret Santa because this is going to get released before Christmas. And I mean, the person, who's the person who I've got? Uh, they were. I was at a shop with them and they went oh, that's nice, they're gonna know who is now and I, no, it doesn't matter, because I'm not saying it. So everyone else they'll know, but everyone else won't know. And I said, oh, do you want that? I could probably, you see, because santa could get it for you. And then I just got it for them. So that's sorted, and they're, I know who it is. Yeah, the thing was the exact budget I've guessed, so it was perfect. Well, yeah, that's a new tradition, though, to be fair, we did it last year, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

It's new, it's like a new.

Speaker 3:

It's what.

Speaker 2:

A second year of tradition is pretty new.

Speaker 3:

Did we do it last year?

Speaker 2:

We did Earth Secret Sands last year. I don't know who was involved, because I think the budget went up a bit this year.

Speaker 3:

No, you were you and I, yeah, I do, yeah, the brew dog. How funny. So now the budget's been.

Speaker 2:

What was the budget? I think the budget was 20 quid 20 quid and we've ramped it this year 50 50 quid costs a living, though, isn't it, but well, it's cost a living. But also we've all said, and no other presents, so that is perfect. Yeah, but all right you've got all your options. So it's not like You've got a massive family, you know, godchildren and all sorts.

Speaker 3:

No, I mean like for you guys, I'm still going to be doing little bits and bobs.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean? Why Don't do that?

Speaker 3:

I'm not just going to turn up on Christmas Day with nothing. No, I'm going to get bits and bobs. If you're getting bits and you know I see them smile You're making memories with them. That's the kind of presents I always give.

Speaker 2:

Plus, you get to go as well.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, but you get to make memories at last forever.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's win-win, so it's nice yeah.

Speaker 3:

I do find presents really stressful and hard.

Speaker 2:

Well, well, because I'm not gonna lie, I think everyone's kind of realizing maybe it was post-covid, when we're all in our house a lot that you've just got a load of shit. Everyone's got shit that they don't need and we kind of got a bit bogged down in it, and I think that's why I I think since covid I haven't bought my parents presents. I've bought them experiences.

Speaker 2:

It's been like theater trips comedy comedy uh tickets and stuff like that yeah, and I, I get to go, and I get to go, or like you just buy tickets for the two of them to go have a night or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's just loads more enjoyable because you then think back on it. Like you don't think back on oh, do you remember when? Because sometimes my mum will do it and she'll do the stockings and stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

So stocking stuffers, but like she'll, still do stockings for us.

Speaker 2:

Now you know and now she's got the grandkids as well that she's doing stockings for, yeah, and she'll still do stockings for um, our partners as well like literally going back to the tradition thing. It's a change up now, because mum used to do christmas dinner and then for the past like four or five christmas we've gone out see, I loved year.

Speaker 3:

I thought it was so lovely. I've never been out for Christmas dinner in my life until last year. What the the. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I did really enjoy it there.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, it was shiny though, oh, I loved it.

Speaker 3:

Just everyone on the table.

Speaker 2:

No, no, the experience yeah, that's what I loved it was roasting Because we were right by the fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was already hot and they were just not allowing us to open the windows.

Speaker 3:

And I was dying. I love being warm.

Speaker 2:

It didn't bother me, so you were probably the only person that enjoyed the setting.

Speaker 3:

I think I was the only one who was literally like oh, this is really nice. I just thought the food was so bang average and that was it really, and that's why you're there and it's, but I do feel sorry for the people who are working, I imagine and that shit as well. That's kind of tough and they're obviously cooking and stuff it's their own.

Speaker 2:

They're there on Christmas day. I say just close up, cook at home.

Speaker 3:

I do think that is yeah, I do think it is nicer to cook at home, because then you know, I think, I think that hospitality places probably be closed yeah, or pay triple quadruple I mean yeah, maybe well, because you have to.

Speaker 2:

You have to pay. It's a holiday, so they must be getting paid yeah, we did pay.

Speaker 3:

We did pay a bit more than what it would normally be that you do anyway, that's probably why I think it was a lot more but either way, that is scrap.

Speaker 2:

Now we're never going out again because we've, like I said, we've done it about five times and it's been poo every time. It's just been the most bang average meal. Because you need a bit of I don't know, a bit of love and a bit of soul in your christmas dinner. You know, a little bit of like burnt edges on some of the brussels sprouts or something like that, a little bit of like, yeah, home cooked style about it, whereas you know when you're going out it's all portion controlled you've got. We went to one place when I had the chicken and it was half a chicken breast, like you could tell, like mine matched up with dad's next to me, like they'd cut the chicken breast in half and then cook them off. I didn't even get a whole chicken breast. Well, I'm a growing man, you know I need a whole chicken breast, not this portion control, and like seven peas, you know, and a bit of broccoli along the top. So what are we doing?

Speaker 3:

I tell you what we're going out next weekend for the with the girls and we've got like a meal that we've got to pick and they're like right, can you pick two sides? That comes with it. Obviously fatty over here has to pick at least three sides, isn't she? I'm like I can't just pick two. I said I pay extra. If I need to pay an extra fiver for a side, I will do.

Speaker 2:

What side would you go for?

Speaker 3:

Oh, there's some really good ones. They had potatoes, roasted potatoes, it was like garlic and Solid yeah. Rosemary something. Do your job, I don't know Carrots with the seasoning on, and then I had to go for stuffing because you can't not have any of that. Wait, why is stuffing?

Speaker 2:

plate. Anyway, come on, that's a, it's a staple, something's not a side a bit weird, isn't it?

Speaker 3:

but I've got a cauliflower steak as the main, so I've never had a cauliflower and it has like cheesy, cheesy cauliflower. Normally I love a bit of cheese but you've already got a cauliflower steak.

Speaker 2:

You don't want to own it, of course? No, that's. But we're doing a pot. Look, this year, aren't? We don't know if you know about that wow, I need to find out what's happening.

Speaker 2:

So well, I think one of the main reasons that people settle and go out and spend loads of money on a christmas dinner is because it takes the pressure off someone to do the cooking. You know, usually one person has to do. They do the cooking and then they've got to set up and all the cleaning, everything like that and blah, blah, blah. However, we're gonna do the potluck situation where we separate off the dishes because I mean we've all seen. Have you seen the bear? Have you seen the show the bear? No, there's an episode and I know you love talking about tv. There's an episode where it's a christmas dinner and it's the most stressful episode of tv I've ever watched. Yeah, and the mom is just really high strung. She wants it to be absolutely perfect and no one's really helping her. Everyone's just getting in the way. But she's also quite a mess anyway, but like it's just and in the end she ends up driving a car through the house, but it's so stressful.

Speaker 2:

It's like 45 minutes of like anxiety and you just got to take that away from whoever does the cooking in your house and just give them time off, like mum can sort, sort the turkey, we'll sort everything else out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we did that the other day. Well, I did say to my dad what should we bring? Well, that's what we do.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's it. Tell me what to bring.

Speaker 2:

Don't bring anything. No one helps in this house, but don't bring anything and keep saying that no one helps, so we're going to bring. Yeah, we'll sort out the size, you sort out the pud and we're solid. Dad, do the cleaning up Easy.

Speaker 3:

Well, I bring some. I bring some stuff for the actual Christmas thing as well.

Speaker 2:

So I go to Marks and Spencers pick some bits and bobs up. Yeah, sort that with some parsnips. Do you like a parsnip?

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, I but.

Speaker 2:

I mean yeah, you can do that.

Speaker 3:

Have you ever tried it?

Speaker 2:

Red cabbage.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, is it not just like white cabbage? No, it's nice from Marks and Spencer's. There's a big difference between red and white cabbage.

Speaker 3:

This is good stuff.

Speaker 2:

I want to know.

Speaker 3:

You'll be asking for more and I'll be saying sorry.

Speaker 2:

Because I've had white cabbage and it's nothing to write home about, but what? The red cabbage? It sounds because we, with the traditions that have come about, obviously with brie's family being obviously they're in canada now but having lithuanian descent no, they are of lithuanian descent. Yeah, like she's got, they've got some lithuanian um traditions. So I'm not sure if this is one's actually lithuanian, but in the morning brie's parents would have like a little shot of crevosier to start the day. It's the first thing they have in the morning, so good on them. So that's what we do now. Oh, that's so for the last. I love that basically every christmas since brie and I've been together yeah, good 10 years we've been doing it. So you start your Christmas morning, warms the cockles up. It's a nice, you know if it's a cold little morning.

Speaker 3:

Well, do you know what you know, as you're talking about that I used to you know you have an advent calendar. Do you know? What I did a couple of years ago. I used to have a shot of Baylis every morning when I woke up. Such a good way to have a. That was my advent calendar. I used to have a little shot of Baylis.

Speaker 2:

It was really nice you know, Wait was it.

Speaker 3:

I didn't have a bad advent calendar. I don't remember Christmas that year, no I just yeah, I used to have a shot of Baylis it was so lovely.

Speaker 2:

Wait, wait, wait. Oh, so it wasn't, it wasn't an advent no, I just had a baylis in the 25 shot glasses lined up just did you have a baylis in the fridge?

Speaker 3:

got a little, only like a little teeny weeny bit. That was my little, you know, start the day. It was great. I don't drink but honestly it was so cool.

Speaker 2:

I love baylis no, baylis is solid. I love it so much. It is mental, though, like the fact that you're just absolutely dumping, because the drunker and drunker you get having baylis, the more and more you pour in, because you just yeah, I don't know, I feel like it's, it's the crappiest drink to get when you're out.

Speaker 3:

I did it oh, you can't go out on it oh well, the other week I don't know why, but I said I'm gonna have some bailers. I really want some bailers, yeah, and so I asked for like a triple bailers, just to fill the glass up a little bit.

Speaker 2:

I should maybe, maybe gag a little bit the idea of being on a night out, because if I'm going out I'm already having beers and if I'm topping those beers with some Baileys but sorry, go on, I jumped in there.

Speaker 3:

Magnesium sorts me out. No hangover.

Speaker 2:

The magnesium thing, Mum every.

Speaker 3:

You are so lost right now.

Speaker 2:

Any Mum. Anybody can go to my mum and be like oh, I've got this wrong with me, I've got this wrong with me, and she's like magnesium honestly, magnesium, it's a game changer. It really is have you ever done some magnesium, have some magnesium. So obviously we've taken I've taken some of brie's traditions that she did yeah, she does what her family do turns out because they have um meatless christmas eve oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So they do everything meatless, which means they get like proper creative with the food. I mean you'd love Christmas Eve in Lithuanian household because they do full, full, yeah, it's all meatless, and the stuff they can do with the vegetable is wild. That is mad. So we've had some lovely stuff and it turns out oh no, the only meat you can have. So it turns out I love pickled herring, so it's a bit of me actually. So I popped a can of that and I was just having a little slurp of the pickled herring. Would you try some?

Speaker 3:

what is it? Is that a fish? Yeah, fuck that. No, do you not have fish are?

Speaker 2:

you not a fish girly?

Speaker 3:

absolutely not. I've not had it since.

Speaker 2:

I was two oh fair enough.

Speaker 3:

I remember at school dinners, stuck in the back of my throat, running to the toilet, being sick all down the hallway.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's gross.

Speaker 3:

Didn't eat it again, so I ordered it once in McDonald's, thinking it was a chicken. And it came. I was like, oh no mum fish oh don't. Oh disgusting, it's gross anyway, because it's got cheese on it, you shouldn't put cheese and fish together.

Speaker 2:

That's gross, yeah it's a big no-no, but Ronald McDonald's a clown, isn't he so? But what I am finding now, though, is that there is some traditions that I had as kids like do you remember any of your like? Do you have any traditions as a kid that you do every Christmas?

Speaker 3:

I used to love going. I've stopped doing this of late, but I used to love going to Midnight Mass as well. Oh, I used to love doing Midnight Mass.

Speaker 2:

Really what?

Speaker 3:

happens. Yeah, what happens. No, truly, you literally look so interested as well.

Speaker 2:

I am interested because it's like Totally. It's got to be good because you've got to stay up for it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah well, they sing, it's gotta be like turn 12 and then it's like you know, and I feel like it's just a bit Christmasy doing a bit of Christmas carols.

Speaker 2:

Oh, is that what happened?

Speaker 3:

so you're singing yeah, they're doing a bit of prayers okay, a bit like a coming together kind of thing yeah, like it was nice to you know the big church in town. Oh yeah, so anyway, I rocked up there, it's the one with the moon. No, it's the other one. You know, you should go past Joris Inn, the big one. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah. So anyway, I was there and they asked me to do the bread, and obviously the bread's this little circle thing, the body of Christ, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

And they asked me to walk. Thing gave you. Is it the aisle with the bread? And someone was next to me doing the wine. You're the chosen one.

Speaker 2:

I was the chosen one that Christmas you got sacrificed, you nearly got sacrificed that night nearly but okay, so you get there at midnight. Are you there before, or is it like midnight it kicks off?

Speaker 3:

I think it's a bit before and then you like and then, halfway through, it turns midnight, I think, but what?

Speaker 2:

And it finishes about half twelve.

Speaker 3:

It just gives you like some prayers for over Christmas, like makes you think about things you know, things to be grateful for it's just a mental time.

Speaker 2:

What I want to see, because I've just thought you're at the church in town, yeah, but also, famously, people love to go on a Christmas Eve night out.

Speaker 2:

I've done that once, but there's going to be a crossover when all these oh yeah, I see what you mean People are leaving Midnight Mass in their Sunday best and then they're going to be meeting and I'm picturing the top of town. They're going to be meeting all the lot from Bless or the flower pot that are at the arse end of town, yeah, but they're coming back at two o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 3:

There, the arse end of town, yeah, but they're coming back at two o'clock in the morning. They're missing the church folk there's going to be at half twelve.

Speaker 2:

Someone's out there peeing in the street and the church folk are like oh.

Speaker 3:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

I didn't pray for this.

Speaker 3:

It's funny, though, isn't it Like it is funny.

Speaker 2:

It's just a weird night where it could potentially because shall we have a pop board?

Speaker 3:

see, I was too young, but I've never been well since I've been older you've not done the midnight mass pop board double no oh, it's a tradition should have done that pre-drinking it with the body of Christ. I know, I tell you what you're not letting me bloody drink that wine in the church it's disgusting. Is it cheap? No, I'm not touching it. You've got back washing it.

Speaker 2:

It's disgusting, you all sup from the same cup, did you?

Speaker 3:

not know that, no what. I thought you got a little cup no, so they hold it oh yeah, and you put your tongue out and they wipe it no, yeah, that's the bread and then they wipe the. What's it called like? Carafe the thing you drink out of looks a bit like a trophy a chalice. That's it, and they wipe it. The next person drinks, they wipe it and it's no, it's actually disgusting it's just a big anti-back wipe.

Speaker 2:

It's disgusting god in covid as well.

Speaker 3:

How gross is that, no, this is way behind, no, but.

Speaker 2:

I mean like they're still doing it, I guess I can't drag anyone these days to go with me. Jake, I guess I can't drag anyone these days to go with me, jake, well, since you've sold it so well. No, I mean the whole like coming together and that lot is nice, I guess, just the time I feel a little bit asleep. One of my traditions over Christmas which I've got.

Speaker 3:

Now is I. Every year I always go and support my granny. She's in a choir, oh nice so I always go and support her.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this isn't that midnight master, this is a no, this is just like.

Speaker 3:

So basically it's on the 21st. I'm going down to gloucestershire because she's singing in a church down there, so is she got any solos no, they all sing together. It's pretty, you know, sometimes some christmas is a bit, but you know, I'm seeing my granny up there. You don't know how. You know, I don't know how long she's going to be in the choir for, to be honest, could be another five years, it could be the last one. So I think you know what next year I'm not going to do this.

Speaker 2:

So every year I always go and sport her, without fail, that's nice so that's the christmas tradition plus, some carols are banging like they got some good ones yeah but it's, this is a choir, this is like a proper holy night no, this is like proper what well they do they do.

Speaker 3:

Sometimes they do cars. I've never even heard of some. Once they did a. They did um a concert over thompson tank engine and that was really good because I had like really upbeat carol singing. I was there my glass of wine behind you know great loving life. But sometimes they do ones I've never heard and then that's a bit hard if they go too traditional with it.

Speaker 2:

It's a bit like come on, it's not even tradition, I've never heard. And then that's a bit hard If they go too traditional with it. It's a bit like come on, it's not even traditional.

Speaker 3:

I've never even heard of them before, but this year my granny's like. No, this year you'll like it, sean.

Speaker 2:

What's the theme?

Speaker 3:

No idea. Okay, I don't think they've got a theme this year.

Speaker 2:

Which is freestyle.

Speaker 3:

Freestyling. That um no, that's cute, that's really cute. I like that, my granny's in her choir they've been to like um coventry cathedral. They've been on tour. She goes on tour with her little choir and once she didn't even know I was going to turn up there and I turned up and surprised her and that was quite nice.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, that's my tradition I can imagine being like those videos where it's like it shows kids, it's like showing up counts and then the kids like looking all sad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they see the parents face I could watch those videos for hours yeah, but you know what? I understand it because I remember when I was a kid how I used to feel when you see your mom in the crowd.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, absolutely I'll still do it now if I see, like, if I'm, if I'm surprising my parents yeah, even though I see them every day, but so I remember what dad always used to do I was just thinking about the music side of it is he would always buy like a christmas mega mix, which is mad, because I feel like there's only one like christmas mega mix, and he probably was buying a similar cd every single year.

Speaker 2:

But I've kind of taken that and put my own little douchey spin on it, yeah. And so what I do now is I like in the lead up to christmas I scour charity shops, yeah, and I find like a really random christmas album, yeah, so it would be like frank sinatra's christmas album, if I'm lucky, or it'll be something on vinyl and we play it on like the vinyl player and like you got like with next to the fire. And so right now I've got I've got four christmas albums on vinyl by like two people I can't even think of. Right now.

Speaker 2:

We've got gene pitney yeah, so I picked them up, and sometimes I'll find them in the year and I'll I'll pick one up ready for christmas. In the run-up to christmas, the other thing we're always looking for and we still do it every year now, and mum demands it is an ornament for the tree every single year. Yeah, yeah, it's nice, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

I forgot about that, yeah it's so good because mum's been pretty type a about it and she's on like the bottom of all of them. It's got the age we were in the year they were purchased. Yeah, that's so like it's you can turn them over. Oh god, I remember that. When was that?

Speaker 3:

and it's like jake age two or something like that I do I do do that a little bit with my grandparents, so I I get a little Christmas thing for them, I take it down and put it on their tray. That's a quite recent thing. I started I think it was not last year but the year before and this year when I was in Italy, I saw a little fairy and I bought her one of those. So yeah, it's quite a nice thing, isn't it, to do their decoration, I think.

Speaker 2:

But yeah with the ornaments, decoration, I think. But yeah with with the ornaments. Um, we've lot. I'm I can't find our box of we've got our sentimental ornaments, but I can't find our box of like because we have the sentimental ones, but then we also have, like baubles, you know, to fill the gap yeah, yeah, yeah, because obviously it takes a while to for this to build but what's happened is, um, uh, the in-laws have sent over.

Speaker 2:

Every year they send us a Tim Hortons Christmas ornament and it's like a bag of coffee beans with like a Santa hat on it and stuff like that. It's really cute, but right now, because we haven't got any of like the filler baubles, our tree just looks like it's sponsored by Tim Hortons oh, so you need to go and get it we need to go get some filler baubles because, yeah, we've got a good I'd say like 10 tim horton's ornaments on there, so it's super canadian tree right now.

Speaker 2:

They look, they're really cute, but it's like we need. We need some other stuff on there. But we've got. We've got stuff on there like there's a a dog, there's a dog ornament that I think it was um nanny's last christmas and she picked it out. She wanted it because it was. It was. No one was buying it because one of the legs had fallen off. So we have that on our tree and mum didn't want it on her tree because she was like no one, it's broken, I don't want it on my tree, absolutely brutal. So I was like, don't worry, daffers, we'll pop it on our tree. So we got it there and when we got it out, I like the idea of stuff that we're doing now with the kids, they're going to do with their kids.

Speaker 2:

That's bonkers isn't it, it's mental. I mean, they might not and they might be like my dad used to do, these stupid traditions and we're not doing that.

Speaker 3:

What about Rudolph? Do you put the carrot out?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we'll do that, we'll do the.

Speaker 3:

What about the elf on the shelf?

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, there's elf on the shelf, but we do a version where we've got this advent calendar and it's a load of houses, yeah and um, all the doors you can, you can look through the doors on them and they're all empty inside. But this tiktok said if you have something like that, a little village, and they're all empty inside, well of course they're empty inside. It's the elves village and they're all at the factory.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, so the kids can look in and they can leave stuff for the elves, they can leave little treats in the holes of the of the houses right, we just eat some marshmallows, right, so they do that, so they eat that, and then what they do is you leave a treat and in a way it's kind of a bribe, because then the elves when they go to work they'll tell santa Santa while they're at work how nice his family is that live at this house.

Speaker 3:

Do you know what? By the village they live in. I think I prefer that way than the elf.

Speaker 2:

The elf on the shelf is just a little bit too like, a bit like.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because I feel like Calm down. I think when you have a kid who places a something in for the elves, I think that's kind, that's nice yeah, it's nice, rather than the elf doing stuff and the elves like and and it's funny because they're mischievous, aren't they?

Speaker 2:

yeah, but it's a lot of bloody effort and this year, like last year, I was balling my eyes out all christmas morning because she was so cute brin was oh, were you.

Speaker 2:

Uh, because I was yeah, we're at home in the morning and then we went over in the afternoon. But so we got to like that was like Bryn's first cognitive Christmas, yeah, of course. Like she knew she was like there was presents and how to open them, yeah, and she was just getting through them. You know, she was opening little books and stuff like that and it was just the sweetest thing and Co, just the sweetest thing. And coop obviously won't know what's going on this christmas, he'll just know he's excited and there'll be lots of lights and paper and whatever and he'll just be in his element.

Speaker 3:

So how excited are you now for christmas compared to when you were a kid? Um, wow, I think it was so good, wasn't it? Well, it's different because when you're a child, you used to have all the toys like I'm talking like from, like eight and below right and nine below, because I think when I was 10 I didn't really, because when oliver was about, I'm sure we didn't really have like proper yeah, you don't really have toys at that point, maybe like lego or something, yeah, so I think you know, probably from the age of like nine and under, where you used to have, you know, your proper, like your Barbies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, polly.

Speaker 3:

Pockets, your dolls. Oh, I used to absolutely love that, and that's when I used to enjoy Christmas presents, because you know they were going to be good.

Speaker 2:

It was before. It's when Christmas. It sounds weird.

Speaker 3:

But Christmas gets less exciting when it becomes like big ticket christmas, like so you only really want one present, you only really want a new phone or the playstation last year, like I tell you I think, did holly do all the christmas shopping or something I think she might have like, because obviously, like last year, she got me some really good presents and I was like how did you know like, how did you know presents?

Speaker 3:

and I was like, how did you know like, how did you know what to get me like? How did you know like? And they were like really good. I was like, how did you know?

Speaker 2:

some people are just good gift buyers yeah, she's incredible.

Speaker 3:

Like I wish I had that. Like I just my brain. I feel like that bit's just empty. When it comes to presents, I struggle so much.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's always that like weird in between, like you don't. You don't want to overdo it, but you don't want to underdo it and you want to make sure that they like the thing that you've got them.

Speaker 3:

But see, I struggle honestly. When I say I struggle, I literally struggle.

Speaker 2:

It's like a blank.

Speaker 3:

It's a blank thing in my head.

Speaker 2:

I just so much Well like not even like you don't even have like a ballpark idea of what you forget someone.

Speaker 3:

No Shit. I struggle a lot, and I'm sure there's a lot of people who do that as well, oh yeah, well, I think there's just a big panic about it.

Speaker 2:

I think I get like a present anxiety, Like I don't like you know, like it I've picked the wrong thing out and I still have it a bit now.

Speaker 3:

See, I wonder.

Speaker 2:

Ryan, it's weird.

Speaker 3:

I wonder if it's because, when it comes to kids, I'm a lot better at buying presents for kids. Yeah, like you know, when it was Bryn's birthday, princess shoes, outfits it's just easy, because it's easy.

Speaker 2:

I just know what they like Well. I think adults are just harder to buy for because they're more complex, because kids for the most part, there's like three variations of each kid. You know there's just like one kid's going to like a loud toy, one kid's going to like a sport toy, and you kind of just know, yeah, if the to like a loud toy.

Speaker 2:

One kid's gonna like a sport toy. One kid's gonna. And you kind of just know, yeah, when the kid, if the kid's got a ton of energy, you buy him something. That means they're gonna run around a lot and tire him out a little bit. There's kids are easy for the most part, they will just enjoy it. Anyway, no matter, even if you get like the wrong present for them, they're still going to enjoy the fact they've got a present. The novelty is there. We, we're going to really use the downtime.

Speaker 3:

See, I've not, I've made an error.

Speaker 2:

You've rammed it full.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, because I'm going to go to LA. Yeah, but you've got.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's it, you've got. Because this is why this is why I said the film Four Christmases to you. You'd probably get a kick out of it, because they're doing the same thing. They've got two divorced parents. They're both. Both their parents are divorced. So they've got to go to the dad's side of the family, the mum's side of the family, the dad's side, the mum's side and it's driving around and prepping everything and it just seems like an absolute nightmare see, I think that's the best thing when you're single, you can choose where you go yeah, so you know I don't have to think, oh, I've got to go to that this family to see them.

Speaker 2:

And if you don't really like them, oh yeah, you can bin off loads of random relatives, do what I want to do and I go to.

Speaker 3:

You know, go home and see who I'd like, genuinely really want to spend time with yeah, I mean, but do you worry about pissing people off?

Speaker 3:

um, well, yeah, in a way I do. You know, like you can't be everywhere, can you? And it's like christmas day for me is I want my dog. I know she's a dog, but at the end of the day, I just want to be there, like New Year's Eve, like I was. I was going to go for New Year's Eve with Holly, but I'm like, like that dog gives me so much I want to like be with her, which is very strange, but I think if you're a dog owner, especially if you live alone and you've got an animal, yeah, you know how much it's. Yeah, of course, but anyway, so, um, so, you know, I've had invites to go down south to see my family in the cotswolds. I'm like, well, I don't want to be too far away from azy to know I'm going down, obviously, to cotswolds you're prioritizing the dog, you know.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, but she's going to kill. Yeah, because you know she's going to dog sitter. Yeah, sorry, yeah. So she's going to be. Yeah, because you know Well, she's going to the dog sitter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but Sorry. Yeah, yeah, so she's going to be with her for three days, obviously Christmas Day, I think you know. I think Ante said I can bring her to the house.

Speaker 2:

I think she's just got to wear a nappy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, put a nappy on her. She's used to it.

Speaker 2:

No, no, that would be of them. It's one of those, but she'll be fine. Yeah, I mean, it's nice you get to kind of pick where you want to go. That is nice, because it's first. It's good that you've got options, that's nice.

Speaker 2:

And, like you said, it is good to kind of bin off, because christmas is a time where you want to be able to relax first of all, and so if you're around, if you're in an, if you're in a social setting where you're kind of on edge and you don't want to be there, you don't really get to enjoy your christmas day and have like a wind down with your family. You know, you, you are and well, the people that they're not family, necessarily like people that are closest to you and stuff like that. You don't get to have that because you are like either dealing with some like racist uncle that you know wants to chat about how much he hates, you know whatever's going on in the media and all that, so you have to sit there and listen to it and you're like see, yeah, I'm all right, see, it's quite nice like this christmas yeah I'm spending it with the people like I love spending time with yeah, that's not, and that's so how we should be spent.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and yeah I do think, obviously, when you're single, people think, oh god, you know, you think, oh, you do get this thing that all the lonely or it's just people spending time with your friends. You know, every christmas have their friends night out when you see them and it's having the joy with them and it's seeing like family members and having to put christmas, get together with them, and it's just like the jolliness of it all, isn't it? That's so special. I think sometimes people don't really truly appreciate it.

Speaker 2:

So what you're saying is like yeah, right now, like from my point of view, my focus over Christmas is fully making sure like the kids are having a good time and they're enjoying it, but at the same time, I know that obviously I want to spend it with family and they want to spend it with family. Because you focus firstly on on on the family, like I want to make sure that the kids you know are around a set of grandparents. Then next year, if we will look at being with the canadian side of the family in the america side of the family.

Speaker 3:

So that must be hard, like you know that it must be hard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is. It's difficult, especially for, you know, especially for Brie, because she's away from her family. So it is hard, but we're trying to make it. So we kind of go. We go between the two, like we can have an English one and then next year we'll have an.

Speaker 2:

American, canadian one. Then we kind of go between or they'll come over here and that kind of thing and it's nice because you know we can the kids get to spend it in different situations. You know you spend Christmas in Canada. There's a good chance you get some snow, you get a white Christmas. You know there's going to be some nice core memories for the kids to really enjoy as they get older. We were meant to be going this year but because Coop's, you know, just over one, it's stress, not, not not worth not seeing them for the stress.

Speaker 3:

But no, but he's. He's not, may as well save the money and go next year yeah, we're not gonna.

Speaker 2:

We're not gonna be like the best versions of ourselves while we're out there because we're gonna be so focused on cooper and like getting making sure he's back into the sleeping schedule, so it's kind of gonna kind of ruin it. But like you, I feel like are in quite a for a single person at christmas.

Speaker 3:

Like you're in a relatively like privileged position yeah, but do you think most people are though?

Speaker 2:

no don't you I think you'd be surprised by how many people don't even mention the fact that they're going to be alone at christmas you know, they might actually be happy.

Speaker 3:

When you, I think, when you think about somebody's alone, sometimes the conception is oh my god, they're lonely though, but they might actually be happy I think, because I last year, for instance, obviously I was very close to literally spending christmas on my own. And that's when our test has come up to our house, right, because obviously and were you happy alone? Well, I wasn't alone, because I ended up coming to your house before you got the invite across?

Speaker 2:

were you happy alone? Well, I wasn't alone, because I ended up coming to your house. No, no, but were you before you got the invite across? Were you happy?

Speaker 3:

well, I thought, yeah, like if I was just going to have Christmas with Maisie, I would have just put the Christmas things on.

Speaker 2:

But like happy or just kind of indifferent maybe indifferent. Yeah, it was a way you weren't necessarily sad about it, you weren't like buzzing about it, you were just kind of like it is what it is. It is what it is, it's just a situation. Right now I don't have a partner, I haven't got, I haven't got the kids, so I'm it's just, you know, par for the.

Speaker 3:

You know it can happen, but anything there's an indifference and that's, that's fine well, I don't know actually, because I think last christmas was very hard, like very, very hard, and it was really hard, but I think aunt tessie did save me last Christmas, like mega saved me. There you go, she did, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm in a bad situation. I'm in not a bad situation.

Speaker 3:

I think Christmas Day you want to be surrounded by people you love. Yeah, Actually I did say to my grandparents I know they're going to be alone, yeah, and I hate the thought of that. But I did say to them look, if you come up like I'll make Christmas dinner, but they didn't want to, so they can't it's a big journey, you know it's, and also with weather wise.

Speaker 2:

Last thing you want to do is have them travelling in crappy weather, you know, and stuff like that, and that's a worry, a worry yourself. Can't beat them off one of you in the boot, come on, but like it's, and obviously like last christmas and you know, and this christmas you're, um, you're in a situation where you could be that person who is spending christmas by themselves. But obviously you're coming, you're, but you got, you know, offers from loads of people like I genuinely don't.

Speaker 3:

If I think, if I was in your position, I would get like maybe one and I'd be very grateful for it, but you got everyone, I think the thing is, though, I do and I was literally saying this to my friends the other day I feel so lucky, like the one thing at the end of this year is I feel super, super lucky.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like my friends, like the people I've got around me. I know they're like, they're good people, they've got my best interest at heart. When I'm with them, I come away feeling good, I feel happy, and I've got, like people, a really good support system. I think these, this past couple of years, life has been pushing people out who haven't really, you know, been like the either the kindest, don't look at me in the loving way, and I think, even though that's been quite hard and it has been very, very hard I've now got to this point where I know I've got people around me who have got my back, and I think it's, and I feel so grateful to life for forgiving me people who not only love me, but I love them as well.

Speaker 2:

it's so, it's, I feel so grateful that's really good, because you've you've kind of, you've had like a, a whole reshuffle. You've like get getting rid of people from your life is difficult, like getting rid of friends that don't like bring a good energy, or like it's hard it is really hard, especially when they're in a friend. If, like, if you're in a friends group with them and, like you can't exactly because they're gonna always, so you kind of have to yeah it's a it's a difficult situation to be in that and that's and it's hard, yeah, and it's like you know.

Speaker 3:

It's say if they did something, I'm like you know, I, I don't want this to happen anymore, I'm not having this.

Speaker 2:

So then you kind of pull back and that pulling back gives you a different viewpoint on the situation. So sometimes when you're in it and you're like eyes are really up close to, I don't know, the wall or whatever you can't see anything you're you're blinded by the situation you're usually in. That's what you used to. You can't imagine there being a different viewpoint. But if you are able to step back a little bit, you do, you notice you look, you watch the situation that you're in. You know what?

Speaker 3:

For years, for years, I literally put up with it and it's like when I pull back, you're right, like you do see things. And it's like for years I've been trying to get people to love me.

Speaker 1:

And it's like, but they never have, and I've always tried.

Speaker 3:

And it shouldn't be that way, where now I'm like no, you know, if you don't love me or you don't have that love for me, that could be friends. It could be anyone.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like if you don't have the love for me that I have for you and it's not necessarily romantic love. It's you know platonic familial love and all that lot, if it's not being reciprocated. And this doesn't mean like in grand gestures and presents and stuff like that just in pure like just being able to yeah, that's just in that then it's kind of it's not, it's not necessarily a waste of your time, but it's just the worst way to be spending your time around that kind of energy.

Speaker 3:

But, like if you've got really like with Brittany, if someone's being horrible to her you'll say, right, they're not being in her life anymore. You're very defensive, and that is literally how I am now, and just like, and then when you do pull back even though for years I've pulled up with some stuff from different people when I have pulled back.

Speaker 2:

you realise when they don't really fight for you, but they expect you to go to battle for them.

Speaker 3:

And then that's it yeah.

Speaker 2:

You're like oh my god, I'm so glad I pulled away from this sometimes I imagine, if I'm in a crappy situation with a person, I just imagine and I'm putting up with it. I just imagine, like if I saw my friend in this situation with the person, what would you? What would I tell the friend? I'd be like I was treating like a dickhead, exactly.

Speaker 3:

But you some, for some reason, you can't see it when it's you or sometimes you can, but you're so scared to pull back because you're scared of losing that person but then when, sometimes, when you do pull back and you don't put in the effort, you realize how quickly that person just goes away anyway 100 and it's like oh shit, you.

Speaker 2:

You were literally like two phone call, two weeks of no phone calls away, and you're just gone now like, yeah, you were you. The likelihood of you reaching out ever is just on the floor, man, it's. It's not happening, it just I was the reason this is even lasted as long as it has yeah you weren't bringing much, I kept it going. I didn't try for like two weeks and now I haven't spoken to you in eight years yeah, it's, and it's mental and it is.

Speaker 2:

It is mad how quickly you can just kind of, and then afterwards, once it's gone, you do have a little recall from it and you kind of go like I should probably reach out. Maybe I was acting a bit like maybe they didn't mean that thing that they said, maybe I took it the wrong way, maybe I'm being sensitive because I'm a sensitive boy, fine, yeah. And then you think about it, but then you kind of need that's when you have your other friends around you and you go. I was thinking about reaching out to blah, blah, blah and they're like why he's a dickhead.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly what are you talking about? After what he did, after what she did?

Speaker 2:

that kind of thing and you go.

Speaker 3:

It's so funny. It's like saying the friendships kind of scenario. Some friends only want you when they know they're going to get something from you like a good time, or you know they can meet other people that you're friends with. So climb the what's it called Like the social ladder. Yeah, and I hate that. Anyone who owns a van knows 400 of these people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, honestly Like yeah, yeah, and it's just like because you think if I do some spring cleaning with my friends and you know of these people that don't don't bring me joy in a marie kondo kind of way. What am I left with who? Am I just gonna have an empty house, but is there gonna be anyone?

Speaker 3:

here, yeah, but do you know what? You'd be so surprised? Because that's what I was like at one one point.

Speaker 3:

I pulled back from a couple of closest friends that I had for years and I spent a lot of time with, and I pulled back from them and I thought do you know what If I sit in this house alone, and so be it. But life brought so many new souls into my life and I've got like. They're such good people, it's great. So I feel like you know, if you're brave enough to not let someone treat you badly, life will reward you by putting the right people in your life.

Speaker 2:

You just gotta get out of the shitty situation.

Speaker 3:

Obviously, some situations are much harder to get out of and they'll follow you around, yeah, like if you have a divorce or something and you've got a kid with them you're still going to die.

Speaker 2:

Best you can do is be in a different house, but still they're going to be knocking about. People are going through that, obviously, with the whole.

Speaker 2:

Christmas coming up. I just think. I know full well that if I was buy myself a Christmas, I think I would just be like I think at first I'd be sad and be like fucking hell, but then I would kind of you, kind of get into your own way, like because you buy yourself every other day of the year, so what would make Christmas Day different? It's just another day. Theoretically, that's how I would. That's how I would frame it in my head Just meet up with some mates later for go to the pub or something, or I'll go go to the pub with them boxing day, whatever, you know you. You frame it as just like, well, it's just the holidays, what does what? Does christmas day matter?

Speaker 3:

but then I still think is a little bit in your brain even though you're trying to push yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly like it's still a little bit there, isn't it?

Speaker 3:

sometimes you're lying to yourself, but it's still there and you don't even know that it's there.

Speaker 2:

It's so true, it's like that meme where the guy's looking in the mirror being like it's your fault and it's just you. You're looking at yourself being like you knobhead. And it's like yeah, you know full well that you lie to yourself, that's so true. But you can't lie to yourself, because you are yourself and your brain's yeah but sometimes you can trick yourself, you can, you can trick yourself you can trick yourself and worrying.

Speaker 2:

I can trick myself worryingly easily about certain stuff. And then, after I've tricked myself and I come to the realization I've tricked myself, I'm like shouldn't have done that, not bad, why'd you do that stupid decision? So, yeah, no, I, I get that, but like I would it's. This is kind of I don don't know like a call to action for anyone listening. Now is, I think, if you can, if you have space, if you have the budget to invite people into your home.

Speaker 2:

Invite someone you know into your home that you don't, because people aren't going to be open with it. No one's going to be shouting from the rooftops that they're going to be alone at Christmas. You know, there, you know there might be people that just you might ask them what they're doing for any plans over Christmas.

Speaker 2:

They go, oh yeah, going down to you know my parents, but they're not they're just going to be at home and like I know you don't go prime, but like no, you're not, you're a liar. Like come say it, but like just reach out to people that you reckon might you know need a little bit of a pep or something. Don't even have to come for Christmas dinner, a drink or something, just something to kind of I don't know raise a little bit of morale, because you don't know how badly some people need it.

Speaker 3:

I know and do you know what Christmas is such it's one of those times, isn't it? It's all magnified you've got the stress for one, you've got like you know, the've got social media that shows things. You know there could be some presents that some parents can't afford, where they're seeing, like some parents, you know, bragging about this and the other and some some parents might be upset the fact they can't give their kid that, yeah, which must be quite hard. It's just christmas, it's just like a made-up day, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

that is it. It is theoretically, it's another day. It's just with everything that happens around, you could and, like you say, especially with social media, if you're alone and I don't want to make this sound like I'm just battering you we're like because obviously you're not gonna be alone, you're gonna be with us at christmas. But if, like, you're in a situation where you're alone and you're just scrolling through social media of all these big happy family moments and stuff like that, it's gonna be an absolute. It's just another fucking kick in the face.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, see, I was quite lucky, because you know, when I first became single, I only had six months and I was straight into lockdown.

Speaker 2:

So that's I had to.

Speaker 3:

I sat on myself in loneliness in lockdown.

Speaker 2:

So you were like how none of you get to see your family.

Speaker 3:

I was like I'm not missing out on anything oh okay, because everyone's in the house, everyone's, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I felt like you don't want to be with your family right now, you know.

Speaker 3:

I was thinking like so it was actually a blessing that it was the first time.

Speaker 2:

You lot are sick of your family.

Speaker 3:

I just got to like yeah, learn how to live on my own.

Speaker 2:

You got another day with your family on Christmas Day. Without having I don't know wherever enjoy that turkey, while you're sat with nothing else to say, because all you've been doing is seeing each other for six months but yeah, so I, I learned, learned a bit about like being alone to be like that, so it's probably the best time to learn, but yeah. I'm I'm glad you're joining us for Christmas. It's going to be a good time. Bryn loves you.

Speaker 3:

I think it's so important and just to give. Even though you're an adult, I think you still crave that family unit. I know, obviously, your mum and your dad's not going to be around forever, but while it's here, it's just so lovely, isn't it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the idea of even if Brie and I get divorced, we would still always just be there for the kids.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, I love that like I just I couldn't.

Speaker 2:

So many people are just so selfish, though I know, and it is mad and obviously there's a lot of years between brin now and your age, but I still can't imagine at any point there's there's nothing that those two could do, like literally nothing. Yeah, and it sounds terrible and obviously you can get into the really horrible shit. But there's, a very small percentage of people that don't speak to their kids because they're a serial killer. You know, most of the time Maybe cut this part out, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, no, but most of the time it's trivial stuff that has just snowballed into this big thing and it you, you, think back on why you're not talking I had a child.

Speaker 3:

I'd want to be with them on christmas day and imagine if you've just split up or divorced and you're not going to see your child yeah or you're going to see them in the evening, you're not going to have them all day. I couldn't think of anything worse so I really do feel for people who are going through that this christmas as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because it sounds like you could do it like yeah, you've broken up, but you know you put, you pull it together for christmas day and you like so the kids, but it won't be.

Speaker 2:

Then you're also creating a shit environment for the kids on christmas day, potentially like he's not gonna be nice they know, and they're already in probably blaming themselves for it anyway, because that's the first thing kids do when parents divorce. They usually blame themselves. Was it us putting the stress on that made you know the parents get more and more stressed? You know, apparently it's like one of the most common things therapists see is kids blaming themselves for their parents breaking up so bizarre, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Because you think oh yeah, maybe if I didn't give them so much grief about this they wouldn't have had that argument that one time. But you know your kids have argued. You know your parents are arguing. Any kids listening, your parents are arguing anyway, whether you're the worst kid in the world or not, they don't love each other.

Speaker 2:

They don't love each other. Before they had you and they, they got married. They got married because they had an Oochie Daisy and then they had to. They pulled together, they got you to five years old, but they had to call it quits. That's it. So I'm absolutely buzzing for Christmas. I'm happy, I'm really happy, you're joining us. I can't wait. I can't wait for you. I can't wait to see Christmas through Bryn's eyes and coop's eyes as well. He'll try and pull down the tree. But I also can't wait for you to see how like giddy brin's gonna be christmas morning when she comes over. She's gonna be dressed up in all her new clothes. She's gonna have a few new toys.

Speaker 3:

She'll want to show you the new toys and how they work she's gonna be in her element I really do wish holly was home as well I know it was all together.

Speaker 2:

I know all the kids together it'll be absolutely, because it was so sweet at the party. You know, to keep that going, she she talks about on we were on holiday. She's still talking about the party. She absolutely loved it, like she was in in her. She was so nervous at first but then louis held her hand through all the dancing and stuff like that it was so sweet.

Speaker 3:

It's just so nice to see that little relationship, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

it's lovely and you know it will be when it's going to be easier to travel. You know, next christmas probably, or something like that. Or you know the big holiday events. You know we'll get all the kids together and it'll be. It'll be lovely. I'm excited for christmas. I'm excited to keep the traditions going. I'm I'm thinking there's going to be a few more that we have as the years go on.

Speaker 3:

Um, but so what's the one you're taking? Obviously, the house where you drop gift synthesis for the. Yeah, that's what that is that is a new one.

Speaker 2:

That's one started this year, yeah I saw a tiktok and I was like that's a brilliant idea, that's so low maintenance and I can have some marshmallows and then um the shot of alcohol yeah, the kids can't join in that one. But the um, the vinyl, the, the playing the christmas album, the Christmas music, that gets the whole mood going as soon as Christmas music is playing. I think I heard Fairytale in New York like November 25th and since then I've been locked into Christmas. I've been ready to go.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I think the best one and it's the one that I didn't mention at the start is what mum and dad did is what would always happen Christmas morning is we would come downstairs. Dad would go downstairs first make the coffees for them because obviously and we're like hurry up, even though obviously they need that shit and we would sit on the stairs and wait and then they would take a picture of us and obviously, as the years go on, you get taller and taller. You know, I reckon we've got it from like when I could actually sit on stairs, from like 2 till 16, probably actually fucking old, but probably like 18 see, I love that yeah, it's really sweet.

Speaker 2:

so because, and then, well, the other thing and this won't happen to the kids for a while is I've mentioned it before on the podcast Christmas morning, well, christmas Eve I would sleep on Holly's floor and then we would wake up about four o'clock in the morning and Holly would wake me up and the stockings would be by the door. But Santa would be really clever and make sure we had something to keep us occupied for a good few hours so Mum and dad could have some sleep so you open your stocking so we would have a stocking and it wouldn't be like full of sweets.

Speaker 2:

It would be a DVD. Maybe a couple of movies kills three hours, doesn't?

Speaker 3:

it gives until seven did you sit in and watch TV?

Speaker 2:

I remember one year we were absolutely bumping into Destiny Child's album whose stocking was that in love that mine. It was the lose, lose my breath album, absolute bangers on there. So yeah, we, we bumping it to dancing to destiny's child at five in the morning see, I do love that.

Speaker 3:

I do love that so much.

Speaker 2:

That's so cute and the rule was that that our parents would come and get mom and dad would come and get us. We could not come and get mum and dad would come and get us. We could not go and get them and they would still wake up early and everything like that. But like that would be, and, yeah, holly would make sure we yeah, we'd wake up at four o'clock in the morning, probably have a Terry's chocolate orange start of the day.

Speaker 3:

Why is it with Terry's chocolate orange?

Speaker 2:

Don't know, don't know what it is, but they're absolutely. People go mental for it. Have you seen what they've done this year? What milk chocolate. I think I might be down for that yeah, but that's they've done really good advertising with it because they've gone, they've got, they've interviewed the public and it's a load of people going like it's groundbreaking. How have they never done this before? It's absolutely. I'm actually like why has no one ever thought of this? It's a chocolate orange, but it's milk chocolate how have they not done that?

Speaker 2:

it's mental, because it's so. It's so fucking simple. It might just work and they were not sponsored by Terry's chocolate orange oh god, if we were, though I'd be, I'd be absolutely just chomping one right now, like an actual apple, I think.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do the decoration yeah.

Speaker 2:

I need to go out.

Speaker 3:

I might actually put the Christmas tree up. I don't know. Yeah, I might put the Christmas tree up.

Speaker 2:

Put the tree up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think I will.

Speaker 2:

But the thing is if it wants to stop.

Speaker 3:

I leave it up because I quite like the lights on it and stuff. Yeah. So I leave it up a bit longer than I should do, like your mum and dad's house.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, they go all out. The lights are all out in a while that I didn't help put them up.

Speaker 3:

Have they got them all up now?

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, oh, yeah, oh have they. Dad had the last three days off work to get it done.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I love that it's mental. Oh, I love that so much.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so yeah, I'm absolutely buzzing for it and yeah, lights are up. So when you next come over, you'll see them all up Our tree's up. We are ready. I've just got to wrap the presents because I'm the wrapper in the house.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry, but I just can't imagine you sit there wrapping the Christmas presents.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I get on that lounge floor and I've got my scissors.

Speaker 3:

Really, do you like wrapping presents?

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

I'm listening.

Speaker 3:

I quite like it because I know I'm like yes.

Speaker 2:

I love the presents five, you know but the first one it's like making pancakes. The first one's for the dog, right, your first present. Wrapping is always shy, it's always a bad job. So start with the worst present on that one, and then, as you get into it a bit, you get really good, and about like the sixth, seventh present, you're like at your peak bailers, you know. Yeah, that's when you just get the gift bags out and just go yeah, it'll be fine, but yeah, no, I'm absolutely buzzing. I hope you all have a lovely christmas as well, and if you could do as a solid as our christmas present, like and subscribe, uh, give us five stars and we can have a merry, merry christmas follow us on instagram, if you don't already.

Speaker 2:

30 old 30 young yes, and there will be one more episode of this season. Then we're going to take a little break over christmas and be back in the new year with a new monday release date. So we'll see you next weekend and after that, january 6th.

Speaker 3:

See you then january the 6th, that's it 2025 fucking hell ciao yeah, see you guys. Thanks for listening yeah, see ya.

Speaker 2:

All right, bloody hell, ciao bye thanks for listening.

Speaker 1:

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