30 Old 30 Young
30 Old 30 Young explores the fascinating contrasts of life in your thirties through the eyes of two cousins living vastly different paths. Join us as we navigate the uncertainties of adult life, from career choices to lifestyle decisions, through both a globetrotting adventurer's and a family-focused perspective.
Our main episodes dive deep into real-life challenges facing thirty-somethings today, while our mini-episodes break down the three best and worst aspects of pivotal adult life scenarios.
Whether you're questioning your life choices, seeking perspective, or just wanting to hear honest conversations about adulting, this podcast offers authentic insights into the beautiful chaos of your third decade. New episodes released weekly, featuring raw discussions about career transitions, relationships, mental health, and the endless quest for work-life balance. Your thirties don't come with a manual - but this podcast comes pretty close.
30 Old 30 Young
Bevs, Bad Backs and Blue Canoe with Aaron Lodge
Why Going Out in Your 30s Hits Different
Why does going out in your 30s feel so different than in your 20s? Is it more than just our responsibilities?
We’re also joined by our 2nd guest, Aaron Lodge, as we reminisce about nights out in Derby and share some hilarious stories. If you’re local, it’ll take you right back in time. If you’re not, you’ll get a peek into our little corner of the world.
Plus, Jake spills the tea on the time Charlotte nearly got him arrested (a story she was really hoping would be cut).
Tune in for laughs, nostalgia, and insights you won’t want to miss.
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two cousins taking different life paths discuss the highs and lows of being in your 30s, and nothing is off limits. This is life in your 30s. This is 30 old, 30 young welcome to 30.
Speaker 2:We are joined by our second guest. He's a Rams supporter. He's a boxer, an actor, an interviewer, an open mic hoster, a first time podcaster host. A guest he's a blue canoer. He's a big name on the Derby campus.
Speaker 3:It's Aaron Lodge hey Aaron, how are we?
Speaker 4:what an intro as interiors go mate. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Speaker 2:I like it. It makes it all a bit cheesy.
Speaker 4:I wish you'd left the boxing bit till the end, though, because I go to a boxing gym and I do bits and bobs, I don't consider myself a boxer.
Speaker 2:Well, it's on there it's on there. This is like a full life thing. So when you achieve it, you can come back and be like, yeah, I've done it.
Speaker 3:It's on your TV, isn't it? Jake Ball can do it.
Speaker 2:It's second on the list. Well, did you watch that? I watched it. Yeah, Was it bollocks? I didn't see it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was disappointed. I'll be honest with you. I thought that, mike it.
Speaker 2:He's got to have held back right Because Mike Tyson could kill you.
Speaker 4:I think it was the other way around, mate.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's the disappointing thing, oh no. It just looked like so it was eight two-minute rounds. Yeah, normally they do three-minute rounds like in proper professional boxing if they're fighting for something that isn't. It was classed as a professional fight, but it was an exhibition really it was on netflix right yeah, yeah so netflix sponsored it yeah, netflix basically aired it all for free as well, so if you had netflix, you could watch it, that's the future mate oh yeah, I mean so now we're talking about it actually keep boxer in, because if it's on netflix and it's going to that many people around the world, that's the bench have you because I've seen your training and everything like that.
Speaker 2:Have you had any? So I started training.
Speaker 4:I started going to a boxing gym in January 2023 okay, recently then so like what nearly two years ago now, and I met my boxing trainer in Seymour's, which is a bar in Derby who is it? I don't know he's called Oval McKenzie.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you know you didn't know who.
Speaker 2:Harry Kane was. I don't know football, but boxing.
Speaker 4:I'm on it boxing training.
Speaker 2:I know if you'd picked that out imagine if she'd just gone.
Speaker 3:I know, I knew it. Oh, of course.
Speaker 2:Oval, oval, yeah, not a chance.
Speaker 3:Okay, carry on so I did.
Speaker 4:I met him on a random night out. He was working on the doors at seymour's and he's a former professional boxer turned boxing coach nice. He's got a boxing gym down in normanton and at the time I was, I was looking for people to do episodes about on our youtube channel. So so we make mini documentaries about different people.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like that we have started branching out.
Speaker 4:Obviously, the end goal is to local, national, global, oh, global.
Speaker 3:What about that yeah?
Speaker 2:We got a few steps first.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of places in the world mate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there is. There's a lot of interesting people as well.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there is. There's a lot of interesting people as well. Yeah, there is. So, yeah, I started doing boxing in January of last year, walked into his gym. I was 106 kilograms, which is like 15 kilograms bigger than I am now, so I've lost a fair bit of weight in two years. But I was just like post-COVID, like I'd stopped playing football, needed something to just kind of get my brain to get and being on camera. I noticed while we were filming our stuff, I was slowly just getting a bit wider.
Speaker 2:Got you when I was watching episodes back and interviews.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I was just like. You can see it, can't you?
Speaker 4:I need to do something.
Speaker 3:so yeah, so you started boxing One of the best things I've ever done, mate. Yeah, was done, mate was it starting boxing?
Speaker 2:yeah, it'll kick your ass, boxing I mean to be fair before.
Speaker 4:Well, earlier I was doing that on my TV yeah it was but upper cuts, side cuts side cuts, then what on the Nintendo Wii?
Speaker 3:it wasn't Les Mills.
Speaker 4:I was going for it.
Speaker 3:I love it. What's it called?
Speaker 4:it's called boxer size thing called.
Speaker 3:It's called like a boxer size thing yeah, honestly, it's so good for toning. Well shouldn't we do that like ignite at the gym a few times. That's what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what it is. He's punching the air, so I don't imagine if you're actually making contact no, but you do you proper, do get it involved.
Speaker 4:This feeds back into Mike Tyson and all of that. So he end of March last year against a user that was 17 years older than I was, so I'd just turned 30, he was 47 and I trained from the January to the end of March for like 12 weeks took it relatively seriously, but I was still a bit of a fat bastard you've got to start somewhere, that's it jumped in that ring mate and honestly we did 3 2 minute rounds and about half into the second round I was absolutely fucked.
Speaker 2:I finished the draw as well, mate it's on our YouTube channel.
Speaker 4:I'll send you the link so you can watch it.
Speaker 2:It's not only the exertion of actually throwing the punch, it's also trying to not get fucking twatted in the face as well.
Speaker 3:This is what I don't get. How so you go into a fight? One of my really good friends, Her little boys, just started boxing and I'm like how you just get?
Speaker 4:into that ring and you fall Wow, you're going to get whacked in the face. One of the fights that was on before ours was two seven-year-olds fighting. I've never seen it like it, mate. They went hell for for a level yeah, her boy's like that he's crazy yeah, wild.
Speaker 3:I don't know, yeah, but now so if you're in a ring and you know someone's going to box your head in, that's fine that's what my dad says, doesn't he?
Speaker 2:he goes, everyone's got a plan put together until someone hits you in the face.
Speaker 4:Yeah, literally that, yeah, there's never a true word spoken.
Speaker 2:That's it from there are the seven year olds allowed to smash each other in the face?
Speaker 4:it's not just body shots they put head guards on them. I mean, fuck, we wore head guards, but I don't like wearing them. I think they're too claustrophobic. I do restrictive as well, I like that old school looking bare knuckle. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck it fight to the death. Yeah, I was going to say it's the first blood. That's mental but like you're. You're getting stuck in there, because that's what I see the post about.
Speaker 4:I see you getting properly stuck in, yeah it's been a real education for me, nice in terms of, like, just the training, the kind of the discipline.
Speaker 3:It keeps me out of the pub why does it keep you out of the pub, though? Like why, because, though like why? Because you want to keep in shape.
Speaker 4:If you've ever done a boxing session on a hangover.
Speaker 3:It's not good and it's also hard, isn't it? Because you can tell when you've put like a little bit of weight on and you start boxing, you get tired a lot quicker, don't you? Because I get that when I'm running, you can't be as light on your feet, mornings, a week now nice.
Speaker 4:And you're thinking I should be noticing a difference. And then if you, if you go to the pub on a friday and a saturday, you notice that you start piling you can't get into that age, aren't we?
Speaker 3:I don't know, are we though? Oh, yeah, why do you finally guess it creeps on quicker absolutely.
Speaker 2:yeah, your body's not ticking over as quick, it's not as resilient as it once was.
Speaker 3:I literally don't notice a difference. I don't think.
Speaker 2:What like if you have a drink.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh no.
Speaker 2:You're drinking bloody pink gin mate. That's it. That's where we're going wrong.
Speaker 4:When the boys are getting the beers in.
Speaker 1:We need to have a pink gin and feel right as rain.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 3:That's the calorie count. Yeah, but before you came out I literally, like I said earlier, crunchy nut box, bought it from Co-op, kind of yesterday.
Speaker 2:And I've literally ate the whole box within 24 hours. Yeah, you're always one of those bastards Delicious You've had for dinner. You've had crunchy nut and pink gin.
Speaker 1:Some peanuts and some peanuts.
Speaker 2:So if I had that, I don't even know what would happen to me. I'd be in tatters. But I, if I had that, I don't even know what would happen to me, I'd be in tatters, but I mean.
Speaker 4:That's why, if I go out to the pub now, I rarely have a drink. It's nice to mix it up midweek sometimes, though, isn't it? Oh yeah, you know crunching up pink gin on a Tuesday, you've got to break the week up.
Speaker 3:You've got to do it when you're dirty haven't you?
Speaker 2:that's absolutely breaking my balls in the gym. And then you cancel out with a few pints fuck yeah, don't get it.
Speaker 4:I still love going out and and like, but you just kind of pick and choose the times. You're gonna do it a little bit better, like. I still go to the pub. Sometimes in a week I've got some really good mates that like play for a darts team in my local pub and I'll just go for an hour, yeah, and and have a, have a squash and like and just have a have a laugh with them. Yeah, and I'll tell you what my kryptonite going to the pub nowadays is it's snacks, like eating stuff when you're in the pub.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love that. Especially when you've got nuts and a bleak gin, it's like, oh, these are good, they just go nicely together.
Speaker 4:My local pub's got Cathedral City crackers, but like a Lunchables pack, yeah, so you get four I know exactly the pack as well.
Speaker 3:You get four Do you?
Speaker 4:really, you got a Branson pickle in there, yeah, really, and you get a little spoon.
Speaker 2:I haven't even heard about it If there's a snack that exists. I fucking know about it yeah that's it I am on it with snacks. I love that Honestly. As soon as you said it, it just popped right into my head anything yeah.
Speaker 4:I left a Google review, did you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, see, derby is a very, very small place. I feel like everyone knows everyone how old are you, I just turned 31. So you're 31.
Speaker 4:End of October.
Speaker 3:So if I was in year Wait, what school years? If I was in year 10.
Speaker 2:I think, you're too old.
Speaker 3:Would you have been in school yet? Secondary school or not, I don't know how old you are.
Speaker 4:I'm 35 yeah, so you'd, I'd have been. You were leaving as we were joining. Basically, what year was you born?
Speaker 3:89. But then, October alright, chill out.
Speaker 4:80, I'd chill out it's when it starts with an 8 no stop from the 1900s.
Speaker 3:I was on the cross from 90, I was like not quite, though can't claim ownership.
Speaker 2:We're there, we're very much in there so you two the same age then yeah, you're both.
Speaker 4:93 we know each other through mutual mates. Yeah, we never went to secondary school together, but we're mates with the same people that I went to secondary school with.
Speaker 2:Basically everyone I met at college was in the same school as you, literally but we are in the same school year, aren't we? Yeah, like 93, I'm born yeah, same 93, the dream that's it it's the perfect one we got to remember some of the 90s, but you know, we don't dwell on it. 89, alright, okay, so where were we going with this before you?
Speaker 3:just wait, I was in like secondary school with you, right, obviously?
Speaker 2:different schools, but I think you were leaving. Yes, I'm trying to work out. Are we? You were going out and getting a job as we were starting year 7? No no, it wasn't 18 fuck off.
Speaker 3:No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2:No, I'm sure it was like no, okay, because you're the year above my sister, right yeah so she yeah, she did before she went so you must have been a year yeah, year 10, as we were year 7, that kind of thing, because I find it weird.
Speaker 3:You know, like in Derby, everyone knows each other yes and obviously like I've never met you ever, and it's so weird we definitely have mates that know yeah, no, it is a small.
Speaker 2:I am amazed you probably have bumped into each other, which I realise we'd have bumped into each other one.
Speaker 3:Remember everyone really everyone.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, fucking Rain man, if I'm at the bar. I've logged all 300 people here.
Speaker 4:I'm like that. I feel like once I've met someone once. Yeah, you remember them right yeah same, I won't forget that fucking dog.
Speaker 3:Anyway, I know I'm sorry she's been on her worst bit.
Speaker 2:She's been brilliant for the last 10 minutes yeah but she's in the enjoy the chewing the foot out of it. I'll have to isolate these vocals.
Speaker 3:She's been so bad and probably doesn't like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Derby is a small place and it's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but there's people you don't. I've never met you. It's weird.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but there is a five-year age gap or four-year age gap. It's quite a big I mean not to dwell 89. I'm not, I think nightlife, even that four year gap. I notice it when I speak to my cousins' mates, the places they used to go, like Scream, Dream and stuff like that you never did Scream Dream.
Speaker 3:I did, but not. We were on the back end of it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we were, weren't we?
Speaker 3:Was there cigarettes still being smoked in the club?
Speaker 2:No, how old are you? There was no cigarettes in the club. What were you smoking on planes? How old are you? Yeah, there was no cigarettes in the club. What were you smoking?
Speaker 4:on planes.
Speaker 2:What were you doing? I was smoking on the dance floor. The smoking ban was 2008.
Speaker 3:I wasn't smoking myself, but people were smoking, smoking on the dance floor. People were smoking on the dance floor Cheeky little cigarettes. You were fucking Zanzibar, what?
Speaker 2:were you doing? I bet you were Zanzibar. I mean I did.
Speaker 3:But I was underage. You know when you finish working out. I've got my ID, but they're checking out. Oh, go on in, you come cheers babes.
Speaker 2:Zanzibar Sin, I bet you were Sin yeah, did you go Sin.
Speaker 4:I went to Sin a couple of times before it closed down. Yeah, it was more like under 18s nights and get like 16 year olds.
Speaker 2:It's not really a club per se nowadays is there.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 4:Pop world. Is it still pop world? It's pop world, yeah, but it's like it's not. Well, it's just pop world, isn't it yeah?
Speaker 2:Scream Dream. It just wasn't the same, but there wasn't, I remember being like 18, 19 and Scream.
Speaker 4:Dream on a Wednesday was like everyone loved it it was a great. It was a great time it was a nice education, I think, as an 18 year old, to see that going out and drinking in Derby was actually quite fun. I love we had some good nights at Scream Dream on a Wednesday, didn't you?
Speaker 2:I love a Darwin.
Speaker 4:I don't know Darwin I don't remember much of the 90s. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you know who I used to?
Speaker 3:love. Do you know who I used to love? No, no wait. Can you remember that?
Speaker 2:now no, no wait.
Speaker 4:I used to work in. No, no wait what.
Speaker 2:What yeah but?
Speaker 4:only as, and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh my god the reason no, no wait 2012.
Speaker 3:I lived in there no, no wait.
Speaker 2:Died on its arse because the people if you knew someone who worked at no, no wait, behind the bar, yeah, you'd give them two quid and they'd give you like a quadruple vodka oh, yeah, sometimes you don't even need money fucking yeah that was it literally
Speaker 3:because all the grey goose on the table. They were the only ones spending money so I used to go on their table just drinking the grey goose having a great time. Then we had lock-ins so it was just like just hype yourself behind the bar.
Speaker 4:We must have met each other at some point. I loved working in there and I've got mates now that I met working behind that bar, that I'm still very well, you're going through the trenches with them at that point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just so that was the best. Literally, they were the best years of my 20s it was one year 2012 when I was going out and it was in 908 loved it.
Speaker 4:I thought it was actually quite a good place to go out and I know I was biased because I worked there, but I suppose you're not very biased if you work there either are you. Well, yeah, because you know you're sober, but I actually yeah, I thought I thought as as them kind of places go that are quite commercialized, and I actually thought it was quite a good laughing.
Speaker 3:See I was talking to one of my friends the other day who I used to go into an inmate with, and he was saying that you know, when you're in your 20s, he was like I miss those days when we was going to Ninway every like weekend and we were like so excited and I was like, yeah, but to be fair, I've kind of got that life now, but I've got more. I don't have kids but I've got to stay in and stuff. But there's just something different, you know yeah, but there is something different when you're in your 20s to when you're now.
Speaker 3:It's like you just used to enjoy life because you had time. Where now, and we were literally having like a proper deep and meaningful conversation the other day, where now you don't. You've got to think it's just different, isn't it?
Speaker 2:well, there's more stuff on your mind. I think I feel like when you're in your 20s you're not thinking about anything, yeah but you don't. You've got bags and we still do in your 30s, but you still. You don't think you have as much and normally when you're in your 20s you're like you know, you think, oh, we've got to got to be doing it differently. I'm wasting my, wasting my nights like going out and stuff like that. But thinking back, that's some great times a Derby night out is solid.
Speaker 2:I've I couldn't say, because I went to school in Long Eaton so the nights out were always split Derby or Nottingham. And a Nottingham night out is the biggest bag of shit. It is. Everything's so far away from each other. I've got a nice buzz on in this place and someone's like, oh, we're going to go to Bluebell Jones or something.
Speaker 4:I think Nottingham is absolutely brilliant. Back on the bus on like a packed out, chaotic red arrow at midnight.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean like you cry a lot so there's a place called Penny Lane.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've been there yeah me and my mates went for Christmas last year Christmas 23rd, because Christmas was. Was it on a Monday or a Tuesday last year? It's on a Wednesday this year, so they'd suggest it was a Tuesday last year. It's on a Wednesday this year, so it suggests it was a Tuesday last year. But yeah, I went there, went there and you can like play what on Christmas Day? No, we didn't go there on Christmas Day. Sorry, I was trying to work out when Christmas Eve was, because one of our good mates.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're a big Christmas Eve night out.
Speaker 4:No, I prefer the 23rd mate. I'll be honest.
Speaker 2:Hanging out your ass on Christmas day.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's it and one of our mates. His birthday is on Christmas Eve. So every year you're always in that kind of like. You end up going out like 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th. Really you know what I mean. I'm always, by the time it gets to that, boxing day is horrible like like. Derby were on telly on the 27th and. I was just like go out on Boxing Day, you just can't be bothered and you're full of food and you just want to sleep.
Speaker 4:But we went out in Nottingham on the 23rd and we went to Penny Lane and, yeah, we had a great time well, this is it.
Speaker 2:I've obviously done Nottingham wrong, because I just remember.
Speaker 4:I don't think you've done it wrong, I just remember walking and sobering up.
Speaker 2:I got to the next place.
Speaker 3:I love that, yeah, but I don't feel it's the same anymore. With Derby I don't get excited to go out anymore. I think Derby's changed the city centre has definitely changed yeah. I think that it's not the same.
Speaker 2:Nothing survives out there. No, it doesn't Like Boo Burger. Right, I was an advocate of Boo Burger. Right listen.
Speaker 3:Boo Burger.
Speaker 2:That's it the way you said it as well.
Speaker 4:It sounded like boob and then something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Boo Burger is a strip club yeah. Boo space burger was Like a really, really solid, like it was better than Five Guys, better than any burger you can get in Derby and it survived like three months in Derby. It was where Burton used to be yeah, a huge place like a nice smash burger place, solid burger, bit punchy maybe but died.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a long location. Died on its ass. Where's the?
Speaker 2:car park. It's right next to Pie Minister.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I was about to mention Pie Minister. I don't know how that's still going. I don't because it's never got anybody in there. No, and that isn't us trying to dig out Pie Minister. I actually love Pie Minister.
Speaker 2:I've never, had one I mean you only have veggie pies. It's a bit boring.
Speaker 4:Yeah, my missus is vegan, to be fair.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, okay, so you can go to Pie, minister.
Speaker 4:They, so I have the Moo and Blue which is steak and blue cheese.
Speaker 2:That's kind of, yeah, you can't know all the good she's doing.
Speaker 4:You're like I'm having Moo and Blue. She has the Mooless Moo, which is the vegan steak one.
Speaker 2:It's like portobello mushroom. What's going on? I don't know what fake meat.
Speaker 4:they make the fake meat out of, but they do a similar one that's the Mooless Moo, and she's happy as Larry, so I'm happy they must be like just are they frozen?
Speaker 2:they've got to be like frozen.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they started in Bristol and there's about 10 or 12 of them around the country now yeah, I thought you were talking about Bristol. I was like fuck it we went to a place in Liverpool. I was recording some stuff for a band from Derby called the Public Eye. They're only young lads and we're recording in Liverpool and on this street it's called Lark Lane. They had a pub called the Albert and it looked like a proper old school, almost looked like EastEnders pub.
Speaker 4:And it said on the window for a tenner, you can buy a pint and get a pint minister pie. So just a pie on its own. So I was buzzing and I was like, yeah, go on, he goes.
Speaker 3:Oh, we've not the delivery today, oh, oh guys, you haven't got your pie, don't down that carrot.
Speaker 4:I sat with the bass player of the public and we had two pints and it was like they were called electric boogaloos. Yeah, and they're like shiny, not shiny brew, tiny rebel oh, yeah, yeah nice and you know them session IPAs that are like cloudy when they turn up, like they get you swatted me Talking charge that idea Mate two pints. I was absolutely flat, I flatly made for the rest of the afternoon. I never got my pie. Minister pie that had a so much made me up a bit.
Speaker 3:So you're like you're 31 then 31, yeah. And like how are you finding your 30s so far?
Speaker 4:Are you doing it for a?
Speaker 3:year so far.
Speaker 4:We're new to it, I think you're always, when you're in your late 20s, you're always thinking, oh, I'm going to be 30, yeah, it's ages away.
Speaker 2:But no, it's right there. And then?
Speaker 4:I felt more comfortable turning 31 than I did turning 30.
Speaker 2:I know that sounds weird yeah, 31, it feels young, it feels like a young age.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was a bit too like hyper about turning 30 like.
Speaker 3:I think the adrenaline like I don't know.
Speaker 4:You're just 30, aren't you? So it's like a milestone and it's like, and then nothing changes and then you're like oh, 30 to 31 was genuinely the best year that I've lived to date. I just thought I'm just going to hit the ground running and try and do as much as I possibly can so that I remember being 30, but then when I turned 31 at the end of October, I was like fuck that.
Speaker 4:I was tired mate smash my 30 year old we did Prague in November with, like my school mates and there was about five of us turned 30 around the same time did four days in Prague and that's probably the drunkest I've ever been. That was terrible mate it was brilliant, but it was fucking terrible. Lost my mates about three times and learned quite a lot from that.
Speaker 3:I was like you found them once mate.
Speaker 4:I kept like ringing them on Facebook because obviously you don't have much signal there, so you have to use wifi at different bars and that, and I was convinced I was going to find them and never really did, but I knew where we were all stopping. Do you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean so.
Speaker 1:I managed to eventually get back to there.
Speaker 4:But yeah, I did that and that was a bit of an education. I'm like come on now you need to grow up a little bit. You can't keep doing this, I mean you're having fun there's having fun and then not being able to pay for your taxi and thinking the taxi driver's about to kidnap you wow where is that yeah, maybe on the phone to the missus can you just send me some money, because I don't think I've got money to pay for the taxi.
Speaker 3:Oh, that is so funny so you know, when you're like in your 20s, what was your like? What did you want to do? Are you where? Did you see yourself where you are right now, today, in your 30s?
Speaker 4:it was a bit of a weird one because I I went to college and did performing arts, so when I was oh, did you?
Speaker 3:Was it Joseph Wright Centre?
Speaker 4:No I went to Burton College to do it. So I applied for Joseph Wright. This is how much things have changed. Weebly Save was 14 quid, something like that Crash and I think I used to use it for eight buses a day, so I daft Fuck it now.
Speaker 3:Eight a day, yeah, eight a day.
Speaker 4:So you go Chad to town, town to Burton, Burton to town. Back to Chad. Get changed back to town, over to Little, over to see my mates. God go high in my mate's garage as you do at 17 years old. I mean, I'm impressed and then go back to town and then get and then be back in for my 11 o'clock curfew when I was 17, yeah and then, obviously, you throw Nottingham in the mix there as well, and then once a week going over to Nottingham, Were you at the the?
Speaker 2:not because there's like a, yeah, a television workshop, yeah, yeah, because that's where Jack went to, wasn't it?
Speaker 3:Jack went to the television workshop.
Speaker 4:Yeah, michael Soccer, lauren Soccer went there. Vicky McClure also went there as well. Yeah, the Shane.
Speaker 2:Shane Meadows lot really.
Speaker 4:Yeah so Shane Meadows actually got yeah, but they did like an open audition. I should have joined those dots really. Yeah, well, it's just one of them ones, isn't it? It's all very gritty and it makes sense what she told you.
Speaker 3:So when you were, in your 20s. What was your goal Like? Where did you see?
Speaker 4:Mate. So I'm doing acting at college. I left the television workshop at 21. I was cleaning cars for a chauffeur company. That was my full-time job at the time.
Speaker 3:So how were you feeling then? Were you feeling a bit, oh fuck's sake, like what am I doing my life?
Speaker 4:yeah you convince yourself when you're in your late teens that, what you like, you've got this goal of what you want to do. And I always wanted to. Not always wanted to be an actor, but once I decided that I enjoyed doing acting, I thought that that was the only route that I wanted to take. And if I didn't make it as an actor and I was failing basically, and I'm quite driven in that sense that once I've got my mind on something, it's either that or it's a disappointment kind of thing. And then I was doing it and I was still cleaning cars for a chauffeur company and it was quite a cushy job and I had my own flat and it paid the bills and it was all very local and I didn't have ever had to like I didn't have to drive because it was like 10 minutes away from work, and so you're saving money in that sense.
Speaker 4:But then you get to a certain point where you're like do I even want to do acting? Is that the thing that I want to do? Yeah, and then you get. Most people probably do that kind of in their early 20s, or they'll have been to uni and then they have a couple of years, I don don't know. It depends on which part along your journey. You are there, but then you're getting towards your late 20s, and that's when COVID hit.
Speaker 4:And I was just like I've done bits and bobs and I'm happy with the bits and bobs that I've done and I've met some brilliant, brilliant people creatively and seen some really talented people that came from the television workshop. I feel like that was the first point where I was like I know if someone's talented, because you've got something to compare it to. And these are people that don't come from majorly privileged backgrounds either. Some of them do.
Speaker 4:There's a nice mix at the television workshop. It's changed a little bit now. The person that ran it has changed. He was running it for nearly over 30 years. Oh wow, Do you know what I mean? It had only been open 40 or something.
Speaker 2:So the intake was pretty similar. Yeah, so the way it was set up, he knew what he was looking for.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah and he was very, very set on what he thought talent was, and I was lucky to get in. Do you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 4:I felt privileged to be part of that. But you get to like 26, 27 and and I used to go out in derby like I was saying about going on nights out open mic nights, like I used to love it on a sunday as well, going down sadler gate and and some of these people that are musicians became really good pals of mine. And I'm just thinking, like you go over to nottingham, you go to sheffield and some of these people that have been picked up like that, the talented, talented folk, what is it?
Speaker 4:about Derby. That seems to just go under the radar, and it is because we're a smaller city and we don't have that kind of gravitational pull of like a big city status. So COVID's hit and I'm kind of sat like as everyone was and I'm like thinking right where am I at? And I'd just finished doing that job cleaning cars and been there over 10 years and I'm thinking right.
Speaker 3:Did they keep you through COVID or not?
Speaker 4:I'd already left just before COVID actually started, but I was working in my local pub as well. I had been earning enough, and then I started doing nights at Tesco, and I think that's another wake up call, isn't it To like get your arse in gear.
Speaker 3:Yeah, tesco, and I think that's another wake up call, isn't it to like get your arse in gear?
Speaker 4:yeah because, you don't have what I'm doing 6 o'clock in the morning. Wow, this is what proper tiredness is. I didn't think I was tired after cleaning cars so you were finishing at 6 in the morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you start at 10 o'clock one of my mates, sophia.
Speaker 4:She had started working there just before I did and she said they were looking for people and she knew I was looking for work as well, so I started doing it alongside her and she'd pick us up and drop us off afterwards. Do you know what I mean? But like 6 o'clock in the morning, mate, and even at 5 o'clock in the morning, when you know you've still got an hour left of like stacking shelves, you're like, yeah, this ain't the life for me?
Speaker 3:I don't feel it. I'd be having a cheeky nap on my bottom shelf. No one could see me Over the top. Charlotte, get up, get out of them. Crunchy nuts.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, charlotte, charlotte, empty your pockets. Yeah, bankrupt in Tesco via crunchy nuts.
Speaker 2:I mean, there is something like when you do go like you've run, like a weird, like maybe you're leaving early for an airport run or something you pop into like an asda or something at like three in the morning.
Speaker 3:There's something fucking eerie about it, so I can imagine working through that.
Speaker 4:Well, all the pallets are out and all the stocks saying like if something it just feels here, yeah, you're in the long life section as well, so it's freezing. And then I kind of sat during covid and I was like I want to do a podcast and it was going to be in my living room like quite similar to this kind of setup.
Speaker 3:The studio in the living room.
Speaker 2:Just a very original setup.
Speaker 4:And it just never really materialised. And then I thought I asked one of my mates to help me out with it and he said yeah at first, and about 10 days later he was like no, I don't think it's for me.
Speaker 2:Were you on a night out when you asked him it all starts when.
Speaker 4:I'm down he spent about six months at mine initially, and it was we could do a podcast from here, couldn't we?
Speaker 2:it's like the amount of times at the end of a night out I've my friends. We're going to start a band, we're going to do a podcast, we're going to write a film and nothing ever comes of it and like the girlfriends are all there and they just go. Are you actually gonna? Well, now, fiances and wives but, they're all like are you actually gonna do any of this? Are you just gonna?
Speaker 4:obviously not, because I've got the kids now you've given me bloody kids I've gotta focus on.
Speaker 2:It's not about making films.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that's the conversation we had and we were all drinking in the back garden and Jake and. I got chatting, I was like, oh, a podcast. So yeah, yeah, I'd love to do that, and that's how we sort of started is that where you started from?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, you knew that I first of all, I'm someone who's like if someone floats an idea to me, I'm all in, I'm like absolute, let's do it. And then, if they hold, can absolutely run with it, and that's great and it's a good energy to have. Like plus, with being family as well, we can be honest with each other. Yeah, there's none of this kind of like. If it's a mate, you kind of have to tread carefully.
Speaker 4:It's like this mug, mate, this mug, are you gonna have to show the camera, mate? Yeah, I mean, I think it's a brilliant we showed him in the vasectomy episode see that, yeah, so charlotte. I don't even know which camera to look in, but Charlotte said oh, have you seen his mug? And I thought it's because, ever since I've known you, I've always known that you have a good hairdo. You know what I mean. And I thought Mr Snip Snip was because of his hairdo.
Speaker 2:There we go.
Speaker 3:It's not. It's because he's looking for his penis.
Speaker 2:They're confused. Maybe it's still there. That's a common misconception. You've not opened your Jude Bellingham. Yet I know I've been nursing this bloody monster. That also that, jude Bellingham. If they don't do that and spring for that at the next tournament and have Jude.
Speaker 3:Bellingham. Are you going to open it?
Speaker 2:or not, I am going. I'm going to open it or not, I am going to. I'm going to swap it out for a cold one from the fridge.
Speaker 3:Wait, let me get one. Yeah, swap it out. Let's have a quick break.
Speaker 2:Let me get one. What's it called?
Speaker 3:A Jubeliger.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:A Jubel beer.
Speaker 2:A Jubel beer Top that's going to straighten the advert that.
Speaker 3:Jubel, whatever, yeah.
Speaker 2:We're going. We've got our Jubal beers. Well, we'll talk about them in a second.
Speaker 4:We are back let me just open my new one we're calling him Jude Bellingham, haven't we?
Speaker 2:it's sat, it's right there and if Jubal get their act together, I don't know, it might already be in the works, but if they get their act together for the next tournament, jude Bellingham is a pretty good footballer for England.
Speaker 4:I personally think he'll be England captain by the time that happens.
Speaker 3:Oh, so now he's got a beer out.
Speaker 2:No, he hasn't, but it's right here. Look, this is called Jubal.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You stick a little D in there, and then the bell's right there for Bellingham.
Speaker 4:It looks like it's a shortened version. Jude Bellingham.
Speaker 2:It's right there.
Speaker 4:I've been calling it Jude Bellingham.
Speaker 2:But then they'll probably it's like beer. Yeah, could beer and football mixers. They get scared, don't they trying to they?
Speaker 1:try and separate the two.
Speaker 2:Just do a non-alcoholic Jude.
Speaker 3:Bellingham, there you go. That's because of England people having fights all the time.
Speaker 2:They're just passionate about the sport playing that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she's a proper crowd chaser I like going to the football.
Speaker 3:I like the, the vibe. What's the name of the vibe? I like the atmosphere that's it of the actual football ground yeah, the football, yeah, I like going and watching it, you know what Dan Pryde Park? Yeah, I wouldn't watch it on TV. I'd be a bit bored. I'd just be chatting depends who's playing?
Speaker 4:unpopular opinion go on.
Speaker 2:I'm here for it.
Speaker 4:I like going to Pride Park, but I'd much rather sit and watch it in a pub would you wow so you can drink? There is that and I just, I just like I'm not that fussed if I don't go to a game like yeah listen.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm one layer beyond you Go on. So, like during the Euros, everyone was like, yeah, let's go to the pub. I'm like, but we could. I've got a lot of beers at mine. We could just all go to one of our houses. Why are we not just doing that? Yeah, see, I'm on that vibe, Because every time I went to the pub there was just a token dickhead there who was just bringing a shit atmosphere to it.
Speaker 1:Everyone's trying to have a good time yeah.
Speaker 2:And he's saying borderline stuff throughout the and you're like I'm just not enjoying this with this dickhead.
Speaker 1:And he's always right behind me.
Speaker 2:I think I'm an irritable person maybe, but where I don't get that at home, I'm the dickhead at home. So that's fine, I know my levels. You're the team captain that's it.
Speaker 3:You know. I know I'm team captain, I know it so no.
Speaker 4:I get it though also I think this feeds into being in your 30s massively of you don't have to be in the pub. No, when I said I'd much rather watch it in the pub, I also meant I don't mind watching it at home, sometimes like, like you've got pride, park the pub home. Yeah, and I would take either of them too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because I mean there is I do like it.
Speaker 4:I don't don't get it twisted, but like people say to me oh, have you got a season ticket? Like no, I can't think of anything. I'd rather not spend 300, 400 quid on really just because the religiousness of having to go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:That's it. You are just stuck. That is your week, your that is one of your days on the weekend is sorted with that. I know that Fair fucks do oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but why do you get boring in your 30s Like on a Saturday? I used to like. I used to be getting vodka, ribena, lemonade make a massive, strong drink, absolutely pissed before I went out the house. It was love in life, but now I'm like I can't be bothered with that.
Speaker 2:Well, because you've done it. It's the same stuff. You like new experiences, so if you're doing the same experience, why would you bother doing it?
Speaker 4:again. You know what the outcome is. How many promises to people do you?
Speaker 3:you're like yeah but why do we get like that? Why do we get boring? Why is going to have fun? Well, why, to be fair, it's not that fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you realize some of it wasn't the day but like when, when you're in your 20s, you would go on a hundred night out nights outs and 10 of them would be great and the rest of them would be pretty average or shit and you were chasing after one of those really good nights and it's fucking punchy You're always thinking about your money aren't you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, wearing your 20s. I used to spend 20 pounds on a night out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is it. That was it. Now what? Because you were at 908?.
Speaker 4:Some dick in Darby's table.
Speaker 2:Okay, we couldn't get away with that. Dcfc weren't funding our nights? No, they weren't. That's why I had to get a job, glass collecting, mind sweeping as we went, but like, yeah, we couldn't get away with it like raiding the tables, not at all £20, honestly, that's £10 for a taxi.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I used to go £20 on a night out.
Speaker 2:that'd be all my drinks, my car and my taxi and my mortgage, yeah that's it and your mortgage. Yeah, I bought my house for five shillings and I went out for a penny. You know, it's fucking mad. But yeah, now I'm at like a little tiny pub in Derby and I'm spending nearly six quid a pint.
Speaker 3:I'm like what the fuck is going on? Non-alcoholic five pound fifty. So what happened then? So you, so you got, so you got this job stacking shelves and you're like right, did covid hit then, or was it before or after?
Speaker 4:yeah, so I um, I started working there in 2020, which? Is when covid hit covid was march 2020.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh so you were allowed at your house to work then oh, yeah, yeah, essential job right yeah yeah, yeah, oh, you're a lucky one, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah so.
Speaker 2:I started working. You're a lucky one.
Speaker 4:It's such a mad to think about because you forget that it even happens sometimes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you do. Yeah, it's like blocked out of your memory.
Speaker 4:And then you went through like 2020 because it didn't come.
Speaker 2:Just a zip by.
Speaker 4:I just kind of sat there and was thinking, getting a bit itchy feet, thinking right, what am I going to do when things start?
Speaker 3:picking up again, moving again.
Speaker 4:And then I was like right, I'm going to give this a go, because I feel like I've got enough of an idea and enough people that are willing to let me make an episode about them that is about Derby and I wanted it to be an inclusive thing, like educational about Derby in terms of like. So some of the people that we had on were like 1970s footballers when Derby won the first division, so in 1972.
Speaker 3:When they were good, yeah, when.
Speaker 4:Derby County won the first division with Brian Clough as their manager. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I was lucky enough that when I cleaned cars for a chauffeur company, one of the chauffeurs was John O'Hare, who played in that team so I reached out to him and I just said, look, is there any chance we can meet up and I'll speak to you about your football career really yeah, and that was what we decided to do was 10 episodes in a series, so each episode was going to be about something slightly different.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but all Derby, all Derby based. And then, when we got to series 2, I was like, right, we'll do the same thing, where one will be about music, one will be about sport, but we'll try and mix up the guests and see who else we can get on board and start branching out. So, yeah, that was in series one that we did Jon O'Hare.
Speaker 2:He was brilliant the stories they must have from back in the day. It was a different game originally yeah his insight into what it was like was really cool but it's just like, because I think Darby gets a bad rap. I really do like, and you're the first one to be like.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm like hiding behind these books right now like, no, it's not me.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't know, don't. I've always, I've always just.
Speaker 3:I'm saying like literally next to two lads who are like Darby and Brown I don't know what it is I'm not saying, I'm not proud, oh, my god, I don't shout it from the rooftops about how much I love Darby, but like there's just like there's something about it. It does offer it?
Speaker 2:yeah, it does, there's a contentness with Darby that you can enjoy, and I don't know there's no like if I go on with you.
Speaker 1:You're a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 2:Maybe you're the issue it did happen, I nearly got arrested because of this one. Why did with someone?
Speaker 3:right so we somebody wanted a pizza and chips right, so we get to Derby Grill. I'm going to put this on here, right.
Speaker 2:Derby Grill, an absolute Derby Grill. I'm going to put this on here right.
Speaker 4:Derby Grill, an absolute Derby staple yeah, I went there the other night. Actually, that's it solid.
Speaker 3:I actually got out of bed to go to Derby Grill at half twelve at night. Don't you attempt me to go tonight.
Speaker 2:I just think it's fresh.
Speaker 2:If you're going to have a takeaway, it does a job they know how to do a she's in like her ethereal drunk phase where, like she's in her own little world and she goes I want a pizza and we're like all right, fine, go get a pizza. So she doesn't queue, she just walks into the front and then starts ordering and jumps the queue entirely, and some guy behind there's being pissed off at someone jumping the queue a small takeaway to do that exactly. So the people you've jumped the queue are, they are half a foot away from you. So and one guy got a bit too annoyed by the whole situation. Like there's or you get to the back, there's a queue, and then there's what he did and he tried to get put hands on, which is a bit much.
Speaker 4:What to you?
Speaker 2:yeah, but he tried to out of Derby Grill I mean how rude. So I pulled him out of Derby Grill and said hang on have a look, but then as I'm, as I've got him, someone is on my back and I.
Speaker 4:It was one of his mates.
Speaker 2:I wish, or it was you, I wish.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you didn't know which side you were on. You were like he was buying me a pizza.
Speaker 2:So I then rolled the person off my back. This is probably a lot more clumsy, because I was quite drunk and it was police Rip, yeah yeah. So there's a police, there's a female police officer on the floor that I've judo, flung in my head what I'm remembering, and then another police officer has now got me around the neck. This is the second episode where I'm talking about me being strangled after a night out. It's three times has happened, so.
Speaker 1:So then she, he's grabbed the time she's been strangled by random people random, yeah, uh, pimps and stuff. So so this has happened and then I'm being.
Speaker 2:I've been pulled back by these two police officers because I'm I'm pissed off at this guy pimps and stuff, so pimps and stuff. So this has happened and then I'm being I've been pulled back by these two police officers because I'm pissed off at this guy for fighting over a pizza and now I'm fighting over him, fighting over a pizza, so this happens. And then Charlotte just took you in a Darby Grill. She doesn't even know this is happening outside.
Speaker 3:I have no clue. I'm just looking at my pizza and pizza, luckily luckily brie goes.
Speaker 4:Sorry it's so when you pulled him out of derby grill, that was your opportunity to go back to the front you're like, you're like, good idea, get rid of the queue.
Speaker 2:There's no queue, I'm not jumping it you're like cracking it's like fucking and so luckily the hostage negotiations, my, uh, my wife. She was like we live just up there, that's where we're heading, it doesn't?
Speaker 4:and then big misunderstanding, yeah, big misunderstanding.
Speaker 2:And then they took the other guy away and I was allowed to go home so I dodged a fucking bullet because literally the next week I was flying to America and I would have had they wouldn't have let me in because of a fucking pizza and you got your weird pizza and then we got out of there.
Speaker 4:Thanks for like looking after me. When you say weird pizza, is it because you have yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I got like a weird fishy pizza from there before I don't know what I was doing after a night out, that's disgusting what didn't repeat on me well at all, but yeah so that's what nearly happened.
Speaker 4:You get a bit like that sometimes when you touch a truck don't you?
Speaker 2:well, but yeah, we're big Derby fans. You're a bit, you're not.
Speaker 3:You're not a fan no, I am, of course I am. I'm just, you know, there's just a big world out there, isn't there?
Speaker 4:there is a big world out there, I do think that it's easy to get stuck, but I also do think that you go to other places around the world and that does make you appreciate your hometown.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I think.
Speaker 4:Derby's a better place than people give it credit for.
Speaker 3:But that's only my experience. I mean, where did you go?
Speaker 2:There's places that are worse than Derby. What the fuck.
Speaker 4:I just think you go to them sorry, I'm joking.
Speaker 3:Oh, my god, I'm getting stabbed by some.
Speaker 2:Looks right now, it's. What is it?
Speaker 4:that's tickling me, this is very much the grass is green.
Speaker 2:The first one on the top of my head was Kingston, jamaica.
Speaker 1:So it's like you do Jamaica, there was that.
Speaker 4:I wanted you to be the ones that asked me, rather than me dropping it in no.
Speaker 3:No, we can ask why do you not like it?
Speaker 4:No, I thought it was brilliant, but it's amazing how you go somewhere like that and you actually appreciate what you have at home. Oh, do you mean like the wows We've got a house here in.
Speaker 3:Bricks and stuff.
Speaker 4:I just think that there's some people that really do struggle in this country, and the reasons that that is the case is because the weather's shit a lot of the time and the foods wank in the supermarkets no natural, whereas you can go to jamaica and they live. They don't have a house like this and they don't have all the mod cons yeah, yeah but they have some brilliant fresh food and they have the sea and the weather and there's a general love for life that is different out there and you come back here and make sure appreciate it because it's like right.
Speaker 2:I kind of understand why maybe derby's not it can be cut, it can come off as great. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because there are some days I'm not a you know full-on, no matter what's happening in Derby.
Speaker 4:I love it, I'm not. What does that have to do with Derby being shit?
Speaker 2:I love a little stroll through Derby in the sun, I love it. I think a sunny day in Derby is lovely. No, come on.
Speaker 4:What's your buff there? I'm painting the wrong picture right now. No, you're not. You're not, I have got nothing wrong with Derby.
Speaker 3:I just know I love Derby, but then it's like I don't know how to explain it. It's like grass is greener, it's like going to a buffet and just having one of the dishes on the buffet. I always, I always like. I always think about food when I compare it to something.
Speaker 2:You look at me like I haven't got a passport. I do go places.
Speaker 3:I know you do. You've been to America so you've travelled. He's lived in America. He went to college in America.
Speaker 4:Did you Right, did not know that, so he's done stuff like this.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 4:I mean, and did she move over to England?
Speaker 2:Oh well, you bring that home.
Speaker 1:But honestly yeah, you have lived a bit, you've done a bit I've got about.
Speaker 4:I feel very lucky that we've done something that has allowed us to start going to places. Most of the time we go out of Derby now is to do with blue canoe.
Speaker 3:Do you know what I mean? So which we should get into? Yeah, blue Canoe. So how did this start?
Speaker 4:I actually genuinely want to know, like so I've been doing acting, yeah knew I'd done bits and bobs on a podcast and knew that I really enjoyed doing it, but I felt like there was more that could be done to represent maybe what that podcast was about in terms of like, okay, so if we find someone from derby, do they have to be the most famous person from derby, or is it about giving people a platform of up-and-coming talent that?
Speaker 4:is in derby, but then maybe mixing that in with doing interviews with people that are quite big as well. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4:yeah like you might only need to do one interview with someone that's a really decent name, but then if you do five other episodes about people that are also talented but up and coming, then that can help raise the profile of them. So that was kind of the ethos that we started blue canoe with, so filmed. Our first ever episode was about a band called the public eye and at the time they were only 16.
Speaker 3:so young mate, yeah, yeah, it is like like you.
Speaker 4:You look at them now, two and a half years later, and they've got beards and they're like drinking now and, like a couple of them, have just split up with girlfriends and got new girlfriends and that's some new songs coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's true, like the first EP they brought out in the outbuilding was very like quite high energy, quite upbeat, and that's like the songs that have come out in the last 12 months mate. They're dark now like yeah they're class mate.
Speaker 2:You should definitely check them out well, shit, yeah, I suppose two and a half years ago. They're like the cross section not to bring up this funders who we keep talking about, but they had their 17, 18, like in COVID basically yeah, yeah fully. They were just oh, that's got to have been the worst age, yeah, and now they all vape.
Speaker 3:But why the boat like the canoe?
Speaker 4:Right, Sorry, I call it a boat. It's a canoe, no no no, it's a floating boat.
Speaker 2:No, it's not a boat at all. People ask this a lot. It hasn't got a motor, so it's not a boat, I suppose.
Speaker 3:Okay, carry on. Sorry.
Speaker 2:But you can row it, you can row it.
Speaker 4:You are the motor, but why a canoe?
Speaker 4:So during COVID I went to see one of my friends that I used to do acting with and he was living at his dad's in Belper. Yeah, lived there for a period of time during covid and it was about 30 degrees and we were going fora, walk around belper and he goes oh, my dad's got this blow-up canoe. Should we like? Should we take it out on belper river? It's just the two of us like wandering around a desolate, fucking belper because of covid, like no one's about all of that. So we went and got this canoe. It took us about 45 minutes to blow it up and then we just got on, got on belper river and we had a bit of a smoke and he was.
Speaker 4:He was sat in the back of the canoe pretending to play harmonica. I'm sitting inside my newest, my bluest canoe and then he started. Then he started rhyming it with other words that rhymed with canoe, and then I started joining in, thinking it was hilarious. And then I got home and I was like blue canoe would be quite a cool name, like it's kind of catchy it's random, so it makes you ask what's the crack?
Speaker 4:and then, yeah, the two kind of formed and then our motto is love many, trust few. Always paddle your own canoe. And I was watching a bbc documentary about two or three days after I was considering calling it, and somebody used that quote like it's not an original quote but this this documentary was um, that's random it was strange like Sarah Giffordy.
Speaker 3:I mean this is a sign we have a little sign.
Speaker 2:Don't get us started on the signs.
Speaker 4:I don't know how much I'm going to canoe with it, but that was it. Two and a half years later, here we are gosh it's grafted, isn't it?
Speaker 2:we have grafted mate. You've got to. Yeah, I mean fashion as well.
Speaker 4:I mean it's, yeah, so we obviously I wanted to start a clothing company, but I thought how can you make people want to buy it, to buy it or to invest in the brand and so yeah the ethos is we run the youtube channel and we get different guests on and try and make mini documentaries about them. We call them podcumentaries.
Speaker 3:Podcumentaries. I like that. It's like a podcast-style documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah and it's like, yeah, we try and tap into their story. And so we've got one coming out in the next couple of days about a guy called Daryl Wynn who is a graffiti artist from derby and he's done a few bits and bobs.
Speaker 4:I don't know if you do you know o'dwyer's yeah, yeah, you know the big leprechaun that's on the side of it. He did that. There's a when derby got promoted he did the one under where the train station is where you got the, the bloke in the like old school, really old school, derby county looking kit he did an oasis mural on bottom of Abbey Street.
Speaker 4:He's got like this wall that he's kind of allowed to use. So we went down half six in the morning and we was there till half five in the evening, like we did. We went off and got lunch and that kind of stuff but he was there for eleven hours. We had to roll his cigarettes for him. He smokes like a train as well. He doesn't eat while he's spray painting. He just doesn't.
Speaker 2:Just locks in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he locks in. He'll obviously take fluids and all that kind of stuff. He smokes quite a lot while he's doing it and it got to a point his hands were that caked we had to go in the cigarettes for him.
Speaker 3:Bloody hell. Yeah, he's smashing it At the end of the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's looking at Banksy, well, I mean, I don't know who he is.
Speaker 4:She said, well, look at Banksy. I said, well, don't we know who he is? Now?
Speaker 2:Isn't it out? It's out, isn't?
Speaker 4:it, Is it. Is it You've read a book?
Speaker 2:we've not, I'm sure, I'm sure it's. No, I think that there is quite a common conception. Okay, who do you think it is?
Speaker 3:No, I can't remember.
Speaker 4:Give him an heart attack you think it's me or will be Dan in it?
Speaker 3:yeah, what the fuck is up with that man? It's definitely not him.
Speaker 1:I know well done.
Speaker 4:That was like the big one, though, wasn't it recently?
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm sure, unless I've just you know, some fucking clickbait I've read, but I'm sure, like it's been, it's been like brought down, he's got to be because he's from Somerset, isn't he? He's got to be. He's from a band. Yeah, he's supposed to be from Bristol, though.
Speaker 1:Bristol, bristol.
Speaker 2:So he's from Bristol, yeah that's why he does all these big ones, doesn't he?
Speaker 3:yeah, but I don't know he's mint, though, isn't he love Banksy I went to an exhibition in Amsterdam for Banksy did you?
Speaker 4:yeah, where I've been to the Banksy exhibition in Amsterdam.
Speaker 2:Did you smoke in?
Speaker 3:Amsterdam. So I went to Amsterdam with a guy named Jason.
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Speaker 2:It's still 1950s.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's still 1950s, I know, yeah, anyway, I don't know what because I'm a goody two-shoes. I know it's weird, it don't make sense. It's what. It's what's paired up with that?
Speaker 3:yeah, because I went out to New York I could smell weed, everywhere. Yeah, it was legal, wasn't it?
Speaker 4:all of the streets I could smell weed and they said you can buy gummies on the side of the street and you just pay on your card and you've just got weed gummies and they said they took them and they said they were absolutely off their honestly, new York is a new Amsterdam.
Speaker 3:It's paid into the economy you know, literally all I could smell in New York was weed. I was shocked.
Speaker 2:I was in Chicago the day it became legal and fucking hell yeah, it was big but yeah, so I didn't smoke it there, because I just been like because. I don't really agree with that. I agree with what like weird yeah it's just a bit of.
Speaker 3:I know, but I know it's been like.
Speaker 4:I went with one of my ex-missus and I didn't. I didn't smoke that much while I was there.
Speaker 3:I smoked, smoked the first evening we got there and then I was like I'm not that see if it was like a one off and he wasn't like loving weed like a bit too much, I probably would have let my like hair down a bit and I tried to like be okay with it and I am okay with it. But I don't know, it was just a lie.
Speaker 2:What is it that does it scare you a bit? It's a bit strange isn't it?
Speaker 4:It is weird. I don't mind that. What the fucking cat's knocking about.
Speaker 2:The cat's knocking about Someone cut off its fucking nose and you're like are you all right? I mean the thing is, I feel like, it's proven that, if you right, okay, we, we're a science podcast get ready for this right.
Speaker 3:When you smoke weed, you don't dream, right yeah it's a. It's a fact. You don't dream when you have weed. I think it's every.
Speaker 3:I think if you smoke it as a as a regular thing, you don't dream exactly that's what I mean, I was like the regular things when it's like no when it's a regular thing's proven that so every day it's like a boo that's in you right now and when you go to sleep at night you dream to let that out because it's stuck in your body, that feeling. And when you're smoking weed, you don't dream, so you can't release this thing that you need to release in your dreams. So that's where depression can lead to, because you don't release things that's stuck in your body. I I've literally got a book on it and it's proven, literally proven.
Speaker 2:How do you prove about releasing booze from your body?
Speaker 3:Boo yeah, but you dream when you're having a drink. You dream.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this also kills your liver.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's different side effects.
Speaker 2:If you're an alcoholic. You don't die from weed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but if you're an alcoholic it's different, and that's what I'm saying if someone's smoking weed all the time like the main reason for depression, though not dreaming no, there's other things but you do need dreams, yeah, but you do need to dream to release it.
Speaker 2:That's what I've read that's what's mad. I don't know what the I don't know how to. I've got a book. It's like how is it like you don't have rem or whatever?
Speaker 3:right, yeah exactly you need it. You need it, your body needs it so. I've got a book how to Cure Depression Fast and it's all in there.
Speaker 2:And it's not. The answer is not smoke weed. I mean you can do it's in that pile and it's one of them. She didn't get to that page. I mean even as I'm for that.
Speaker 3:She got to. It's interesting.
Speaker 2:I love your goody two shoes. It is literally like the film Grease, that is your goody two shoes metaphor. It's just like Sandy's a bit of a badass because she's smoking a cigarette. You're like, oh, she's crazy and you're one of the.
Speaker 3:I remember.
Speaker 4:I thought you were a proper badass going to the front of that queue, mate.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's how you get your kicks, mate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, I'm having this fucking pizza I mean, I just saw that pizza and nothing else, everything else. You had tunnel visits. You didn't dream that night that pizza.
Speaker 2:You know, sorted you right out, but anyway where were we before we got onto this?
Speaker 3:how did we even get onto this?
Speaker 4:we were talking about the Banksy Museum and you were saying that you wanted to. Oh yeah, you didn't get high and all I asked you was was it any good?
Speaker 2:you were like I don't smoke right.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 4:I've loved having you, thank you and we'll catch everyone soon yes, yes, I'm sure we will. There'll be a part two at some point.
Speaker 2:Now we have to do our really nice beggy bit.
Speaker 4:I think that's Jake. We'll get you on our channel at some point.
Speaker 3:I'm going to leave this one. Go on, start begging, do it.
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Speaker 4:I've had a wonderful hour and a half just sat here chewing the fat, and there's not many podcasts where you can just get your socks out like this eat nuts bring your own beers.
Speaker 3:Brilliant bit of kit, thank you thanks for having you and take care everyone, and we'll see you soon.
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