30 Old 30 Young
30 Old 30 Young explores the fascinating contrasts of life in your thirties through the eyes of two cousins living vastly different paths. Join us as we navigate the uncertainties of adult life, from career choices to lifestyle decisions, through both a globetrotting adventurer's and a family-focused perspective.
Our main episodes dive deep into real-life challenges facing thirty-somethings today, while our mini-episodes break down the three best and worst aspects of pivotal adult life scenarios.
Whether you're questioning your life choices, seeking perspective, or just wanting to hear honest conversations about adulting, this podcast offers authentic insights into the beautiful chaos of your third decade. New episodes released weekly, featuring raw discussions about career transitions, relationships, mental health, and the endless quest for work-life balance. Your thirties don't come with a manual - but this podcast comes pretty close.
30 Old 30 Young
The Snip in Your 30's - A Catch up
This week, we’re catching up on what we’ve been up to—spoiler alert: Jake’s officially joined the vasectomy club.
Charlotte’s got so many questions about how it all went down, and she’s bought a gift that’s guaranteed to make Jake laugh (or cringe.. we’ll let you decide).
Guys, if you’ve ever thought about getting the snip, this episodes got all the insights you need. Ladies, if you’ve always wondered what actually happens, prepare to laugh.
Whilst Jake’s had all this going on, Charlotte’s done a complete U-turn on something major... What’s changed? Tune in to find out!
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Two cousins taking different life paths discuss the highs and lows of being in your 30s, and nothing is off limits. This is life in your 30s. This is 30 old, 30 young.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to the 30 old, 30 young weekly update. I'm joined today by the usual Charlotte McGonagall.
Speaker 3:Why hello there?
Speaker 2:And I'm coming off the back of a major op.
Speaker 3:Yes, gosh, how are you feeling?
Speaker 2:You know the word hero is thrown around a lot these days, but I'm okay.
Speaker 3:Wait, let's just go back to the start. So, the night before. How are you feeling? Obviously, this is for the big operation, the SNIP.
Speaker 2:This is for the SNIP.
Speaker 3:Because I bet people are like, oh, what's going on?
Speaker 2:Big operation, okay, yeah, no, the nerves hadn't kicked in the night before.
Speaker 3:So you weren't worrying, so you weren't thinking tomorrow I'm going to be a different man.
Speaker 2:I'm never going to be able to have a baby, no mind when we're a different man, never gonna be able to have a baby? No, that wasn't even entering the mind, to be honest, it was just the fact, the idea of going into a hospital. I was just like, a bit like. You know, it wasn't the actual operation that was happening, it was the idea of it and, plus, all the women in my family didn't allow me to even have a moment of being being nervous about it, because they just like, grow up.
Speaker 3:You know we've, we've been cut open, sliced open and squeed one out you know, so grow up I did see on the chat yeah, yeah, I got a lot of.
Speaker 2:You're literally the only person that said good luck, you're so brave, or whatever yeah, everyone else my family was like grow up get in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's because I've not pushed a baby out.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I can like, I can sympathize if and when that does happen, you'll probably be like you fucking, what are you talking?
Speaker 3:about. It doesn't even compare. I'll be messaging you out of the blue, you dick. 10 years later.
Speaker 2:What the fuck are you talking about? So, yeah, my mum dropped me off, which was nice, and yeah, it was just one of those weird things I knew I was going to be in and out in were you scared like half an hour. No, I, I honestly I was just like this needs to be done. We don't want to have a little oopsie daisy baby, you know no, um, although I'd love that, I'd love another baby in the family. Of course you bloody, would we can pop them out.
Speaker 2:No, I'm still not bloody sleeping through. We're gonna add another one in the mix, no thanks. No, it's. It was just I knew it needed to be done and I just knew if it ever came to the point where we did. You know, we had an oopsie days in yeah, previous pregnant. It would be so, so difficult to you know, get rid, terrible whatever. Abort the baby because we just know it would be another brain on coop in there or an amalgamation of the two.
Speaker 3:Would you have been able to have done that?
Speaker 2:Well, that's it. I don't know if we would have been able to, so I don't even want to get to the point where that question's even being asked.
Speaker 2:Just let's avoid it. Prevention is the best cure. I think that's the phrase. So if we just don't have it, have it come up and it can never come up, then it can't happen and we don't have to face that horrible question. Yeah so, yeah. So, avoiding that and knowing what a third baby can do to people and knowing you know how hard the second one was for brie and knowing how hard the third one was for holly yeah, we just slot in.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just joking. It's me like what's the problem? You know, and then pull one out and next one yeah, I thought it's meant to get easier with each baby now, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think jury's out on that one. We'll have to. I think the consensus is probably from all women no, it gets. I think it gets easier to raise them the more there is, because you can just leave them to look after each other a little bit like the first ones, are babysitters.
Speaker 3:Still a human being, isn't it?
Speaker 2:exactly. It's another thing to think about still needs to be taught.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, that's a big job, isn't it so?
Speaker 2:we didn't want to have it accidentally come about. So the hardest part part of it really was, uh, finding the the room that they sent me to. They were like it was the weirdest. I was in the foyer of the place and I checked in and she was like here for the sex to me. I was like, yep, yeah, I am, yep, um. As if it was literally I'd said like I don't know, here for my flu jab or something. It was just very casual. I was like, yeah, here to have your penis cut off. Yep, yep, here I am, um. So then I sat down. They they called my name, obviously incorrectly, over the microphone how do they pronounce it?
Speaker 2:uh, magenta, I met, yeah magini or something like that I think I have my genie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, hey, jay magini can be a snip, snip so yeah, magini. Medjoolie.
Speaker 2:Medjoolie so I then I looked around and all I saw was the door came in and then across the way there was like another double door that says staff only, and I'm looking around, I'm like where the fuck am I going? And then someone who was sat there was just like just that way mate next to reception, like down the corridor were the doors and.
Speaker 2:I was like oh, there's no fucking signs up. Oh, or my, oh, there is a thousand signs and my head just wasn't in the game and I was just like I think nerves were just taken over at this point.
Speaker 2:So I'm strolling down, um I get to the room and there's um a doctor and a lovely nurse in there and it just is very. The whole thing's so casual. That's the thing about it. It's the weirdest thing because it's like it's probably how they you know, it's how casual like midwives keep it with uh women when they're giving birth at first, like it's like oh yeah, you're, they're gonna be down your business end in a few hours yeah, I just feel a bit queasy.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna lie but they kept it.
Speaker 2:So she was just like I don't know anything this morning. I was like no, I've got a time off work, which is nice, you know, to come and do this get across here, yeah yeah, traffic wouldn't do bad left after the rush. You know all that like most boring stuff, and I'm like in 10 minutes you're gonna see my genitals, oh gosh.
Speaker 3:So yeah, it's a bit awk, isn't it? That's it. Someone's ever seen that. Then it's like my, my penis. It would be, wouldn't it?
Speaker 2:I have two children so no, not the first time.
Speaker 3:No, but I mean not like from a romantic point, because obviously women have to go for, like the smear, every. I don't even know how long you've got to go. Terrible of me really, but that's it.
Speaker 2:we are just free willying all the time. We are just Free willying. We're just bobbing along with our willies, getting us into all sorts of mischief and we never get them checked up on. Unless you know you have a little a dodgy romantic rendezvous or something, then you go get it checked up.
Speaker 3:But yeah, you don't really get your.
Speaker 2:So that's the first time then, yeah, really, when you really when you had a one night stand or something or XP. Yeah, but even then you don't get well, unless you have like something wrong, something's growing on it. That's when you go get it out, but, like, if you go get like a chlamydia check or something, they just it's just a little, I think it's just a urine and a swab it's not even a swab, I think it's just a pee sample we did when we were like 16, 17 and thought we were way more sexually active than we were.
Speaker 2:We'd always go and get a check up, being like yeah should probably get a look at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but there's nothing wrong in that.
Speaker 2:Better be safe than sorry, yeah, I know, but there was no women in between check ups. It was just like. I'd better go check it out just in case it's been laying dormant.
Speaker 2:Are you guys going through this week a load of bollocks? So I walked in yeah, we're having a chit chat and they said, yeah, you just need to check through, read through all the stuff, make sure you're alright with it. You're not being forced to do this. You know you're, you are aware you'll be infertile by the end of the day but well, you're aware you will be infertile. However, don't get carried away and think you are instantly infertile, because it can take a few goes before you are.
Speaker 3:Oh, so you might have to go back in again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it might not take, and I won't know, until March next year March. Yeah, yeah, so I have to. No, I don't have to abstain. You have to use all the oh my God, March next year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you just I'm probably waiting for a visa, yeah and hopefully I've got no little travellers, you know I don't know travellers, so and then I filled up the paperwork and I went.
Speaker 2:Can I just go? I'm just gonna go to the toilet quickly yeah, because suddenly I just like I need to go to the toilet before you had your.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so I went for my last wee as a fertile man and I was like, and I was.
Speaker 2:I literally had a shower about half an hour before so I made sure everything was all good, because you don't want to be that guy that they talk about. Isra's a bit smelly, so obviously nurses go through, see some horrendous stuff and I'm probably absolutely run of the mill, but still you just worry, you don't want to be a nurse. Horror story.
Speaker 3:I'm sure you're fine. I'm absolutely fine.
Speaker 2:But then they were like right, you pop in there, take your pants off, trousers off, put them on the chair.
Speaker 3:You stand there. Come on in, you go.
Speaker 2:No, and then lie down on the bed and get ready for me.
Speaker 3:Oh God.
Speaker 2:Get ready for us. Not get ready for me? That's like oh. But then what I did notice, and this is disgusting. I'll probably cut this out.
Speaker 3:No, don't cut it out, keep it in.
Speaker 2:The towel that they laid on the bed they're like was white, yeah Right. So I became super aware of potential skid mark Because obviously my bare ass is on a very white surface and I'm you know, I'm clammy anyway because of the whole situation. If I'd left them I would be fucking mortified.
Speaker 3:So that helped me imagine if you left a brown stain on the thing that's it, and so my, my mind then goes to that oh my, which actually kind of made me take my mind off the fact that me me meat and two veg were out. So I just yeah, but you, okay, I won't ask too many questions I mean ask you out.
Speaker 2:I'm aware we're related, so if it's on the outside, my pants are off yeah, but my ass is on the the surface and so, like as I'm, as I'm shuffling around, am I leaving it? Is there any residue? Oh god, you.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 2:And luckily. Well, I'll get to that part so that's what I was worried about and that took over all my thought process. And then the doctor I'm there, they come in, he's got a full face shield on as if I'm going to attack him. So he's doing that and he gets a swab and he cleans me up and gets me ready for it and then the nurse bless her.
Speaker 2:She is stood at my waist and like the vein in her neck was just like making sure she was keeping eye contact with me and she did not look down below the whole time, obviously, you know. So I don't get like yeah, because it'd be weird if I'm having a conversation with her and she's just like just has a glance at it. You know. So I don't get like a, because it would be weird if I'm having a conversation with her and she's just like has a glance at it. You know it's odd. So while he's sorting me out, so he punctures my testicles punctures him yeah, there's a puncture, so it's like a.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like a needle, but slightly wider. So it. No, because they gave me the anesthetic sorry, the anesthetic, first local anesthetic and then puncture, open it, go in there with the needles two needles in there and then close it back up and suture the wound like they burn your balls back together, the sack like they've welded. I've got my balls have been welded. Basically, gosh, nice, skin weld.
Speaker 3:Flippin' heck.
Speaker 2:Disgusting. So that happens and me and this nurse are just having our own gap. And I can tell that I was. Obviously I was nervous, but the way I was talking was just at a rate of knots. She was just like like so you got it? I was like yeah, we've got christmas coming up and then the kids are really excited about that. This is going to be a first brin's first cognitive christmas, so she's already on the first of it. She's like yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's like um, and it's just asking me like the most boring questions and it was.
Speaker 3:They do that when you go for um like a blood test or something, and it'll stick in your arm and meanwhile this guy's, you know snipping at me my balls, so all that's happening.
Speaker 2:And then the worst part, and the part that I think I'll always remember, is they went right, okay, so did you bring any tight, tighted pants? And I went no, these get tight when I put them on. They're like yeah, if you, if you could like, you need to get yourself a speedo or something like to really hold it all together why?
Speaker 3:where's it gonna go?
Speaker 2:no, I think it's more like if you keep it all up and it doesn't dangle, it doesn't put stress on the veins and stuff and they could split. Yeah, gross, so all of that stuff. So I said, no, don't worry what I'll do, I've got and I said I've got quite large thighs. I said I'll just lift it up and then close my legs oh god and then I went yeah like that and I just went.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I said that and then they went right, we're gonna dress you now. And I went what sorry? And they were like, because you can't really move to put your trousers on, that's when you could really do some damage. We're gonna dress you oh my god, I don't know if you remember the last time you were dressed by someone never but. But you know that you know that bit where have you ever had someone put a jacket on for you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course. And so you put your one arm in and then you frantically look for the other arm and you can't find it.
Speaker 2:That was me with trousers, so they were like lifting my pants up.
Speaker 3:I mean, why did you not video this?
Speaker 2:This would have been good to put it anywhere. Blur out A massive black box. Blurring out.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love that. That's funny so they're dressing me.
Speaker 2:And my pants are going on and I wore these. I wore chinos.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but can you like? Oh, you should have gone for some joggers.
Speaker 2:They were like yeah, what you want to do is tight pants, loose trousers, and I went loose trousers, tight, tight ish trousers. So they shuffle them up and then like lift, lift, if you could lift up please.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, I lift up, yeah yeah, I can lift up, but it's like I felt like a two-year-old being dressed again, and then she had to put my shoes on for me, because I didn't, because she was like most people wear like sandals or crocs or something like I'm wearing boots, um. So I put those on and then and I got a bit of a head rush. I hadn't had breakfast. I got a bit of head rush. She was like okay, I'll get you some water. We'll have to take you to a different room, though, because you've got to sign off some documents and all that lot. So I'm sat in there. I send the picture to the family chat of being like I'm infertile with my, with my glass of water. And she was, and they literally were like we'll just check in. Then they sorted me out for the you know logging in to get me checked out to make sure I am infertile in march, and then I can't believe how long it is.
Speaker 3:You've got to wait well it's just.
Speaker 2:I think it's just. I think if they do it too soon you could get like a false read and you think you're fine and then suddenly there's a baby, or I think they just want you to wait. Make sure you've done. You know. They said at least 25 times you need to.
Speaker 3:Well, have sex.
Speaker 2:Or, you know, sort yourself out to make sure you're on the new batch. They didn't say that, but that's how it felt Like you've got to get through the old stock and then see what the new guys are on rotation. Oh my God, so all that happens and then I'm not going to was they gave me, yeah, the local land sector that would run out in about two hours, so we had time to get a Mackey's breakfast on the way home, which was lovely that did a job that sorted me right out of breakfast wrap spot on how many hash browns did you have?
Speaker 2:well, it's cheeky because it's a breakfast wrap, so the hash brown comes in the wrap, doesn't it?
Speaker 3:and you don't get one, but I'd have to go for an extra one.
Speaker 2:Well, they do that on the menu now as you do it on the app. They go extra hash brown. Oh yeah, because they know what we're like.
Speaker 3:I always have two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I always. If I have an extra hash brown, I'll take it and Brie will have it.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm scoffing. Yeah, yeah as soon as it comes in my mouth.
Speaker 2:Any extra left over. So I had that to make sure, you know, double down, and I'm not gonna lie, there was only one time, I think it was the. So I had this done on a tuesday, wednesday, tuesday, feet up. You know. They said take, take a load off. You know, really, look after yourself.
Speaker 2:Um, wednesday, still a bit like uh, bruised, I would say, and it all, it all it felt like was that someone was holding them. That's what it felt like, like they were giving them a bit of a squeeze, so that's what it felt like. And it was like a quite an uncomfortable and obviously, when, when that happens, if you do get squeezed or kicked in the balls, you just feel a bit sick and a bit like oh, get out. So that's what it felt like. I just felt like I was going to be sick and I hate being sick. So I was like, if I stay still, I won't feel sick and I won't pass out from being sick. So all that was happening. And then it was only on the Thursday night and I was like I could probably be all right. I went and did. I went on the they said don't drive till Sunday. And on Thursday I did some deliveries.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then you might stop the process from happening.
Speaker 2:Well, this is why I'm worried or infection, but I think the job's done. I think it's infections, because it's all internal. You don't know if it's an infection is bad until it starts to do damage. So, and it was on the Thursday night I think I rolled over in my sleep or something and just basically nutcrackered myself and I woke up and I was like that it just that was when that was the worst not the worst pain I've ever had, but that was is really shit, because what I did is I full-on. This is I didn't take a photo. Actually I should actually. No, I shouldn't, because the internet shouldn't see this. I fully. I went sumo because I didn't order any speedos, because I was being a tight, tight bastard. I'm not buying speeders.
Speaker 2:I'm never going to wear them again we didn't have to be the brand speedo right, but either way they're going to be, they're going to be here like the next day, swimming trunks, yeah, or speed, but I think yeah, yeah, but like something, just so. All I did is I just got my normal boxers, yeah, and just made them into a sumo situation. So I just I took them at the top of my thighs and gave myself a massive wedgie and I moved, moved everywhere I need to be, which I slept with. Obviously, in the night, the moving, it came a bit loose and that's when I clapped them with my thighs. So that woke me up with a start and I thought I was going to throw up, but after that, fine so, out of 10, how would you rate it then?
Speaker 2:pain what?
Speaker 3:okay from going in before like worrying the night before out of 10, 10 being really bad one being three out of 10 worried three out of 10. That's cool, when you actually were walking into the hospital. No, it's gonna happen as 10.
Speaker 2:5 out of 10, which is like a baseline of walking into hospital, to be honest yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 3:And then you sat in the chair out of 10 uh, the skid mark fiasco kind of took my wait.
Speaker 2:No, skid mark fiasco implies I left them. I didn't like on the record I didn't leave skid mark. But that whole idea of it worried me and the idea of having a um, you know, a you know the dirtiest penis they've ever seen.
Speaker 3:Right, worried me, oh god like to clarify.
Speaker 2:It's totally normal down there, but you start to have these panics. You start to have the panic that took over all of it.
Speaker 3:So I worry was like four out of ten, okay, and then, when he was doing it, what was that?
Speaker 2:that was fine.
Speaker 2:I was just having a chat, so so nothing talking about dogs and stuff yeah, oh god, not the dogs talking about rescues and stuff like that and talking about murphy and all that. So that was, that was fine. Uh, her dog, hopefully his legs gets better. He got amputated the other day, so sad times. Well, she, she adopted him with like a gammy leg and then literally straight away, the leg like seized up and she had to. So that was sad. So that took my mind. I was like, okay, there is worse situations to be in.
Speaker 2:Um, and yeah, after the pain, after maximum where I clapped myself like like I'd closed the book on them. Six at six out of ten and it went away quickly, just had some water and went back to sleep and then, throughout the maximum pain, just uncomfortable Four out of ten. If that, I just think men need to grow up. If I'm honest, it's not that bad. You're just worried about getting your penis out. That's what it is, you're worried.
Speaker 3:No, men are not worried about that, they are.
Speaker 2:One bit. No, they're not More men than you think are insecure about their penis More men than you think?
Speaker 3:Absolutely not. I got. I got. I was walking over a bridge once and this man put his trousers down and started playing William in front of me.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, there's some weirdos, of course, Wait.
Speaker 3:I've got something for you anyway.
Speaker 2:Wait, what have you got for me? What is this? I've not actually opened it. I wonder what you were doing in there.
Speaker 3:I've not yet there you go because, obviously, if you had a baby, you'd come home with something. Obviously with a snip you'd lose something. So I've got you a little something. I hope it's the right thing. Yeah, it is actually. Yeah, it's gone this is great.
Speaker 2:I'll have this.
Speaker 3:I'll use this on the path oh, oh, nice man, what you got in there, a little tea bag, oh, that's cute, oh I got a little tea bag in there.
Speaker 2:So for those who aren't watching the visual um, hopefully we'll zoom in on that, on some uh magic video editing. Um, charlotte got me an old Mr Snipsnip. Oh, we'll be backwards in yours.
Speaker 3:Oh, how do I do that? Do it on mine.
Speaker 2:Mr Snipsnip, I'm your guy there you go. Nice, okay. Well, that's my podcast cup sorted out, lovely stuff.
Speaker 3:I'll give you that. So yeah, you're done then.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's all done, it's all good and yeah, honestly, besides the flasher, that you've encountered and besides you know.
Speaker 3:So you reckon guys are just scared about getting it.
Speaker 2:I reckon the top. Well, I think they're scared about being infertile because they think it attacks their masculinity, where I think getting it done is, I think, quite a masculine thing to do, and sorting it out, you know.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:So, rather than putting your partner or wife through an uncomfortable situation and rather than giving a load of illegitimate kids to the world, you just get the job done and stop, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I think some men are also worried about the fact that you know it could actually be the fact. Like you said, they just don't want to have that power taken away from them. Maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but why it's not a power?
Speaker 3:Not a power, but it's just like.
Speaker 2:You don't do any of it. You do the first bit, you do the meh at the start and then the rest of it is for the woman.
Speaker 3:But then also they may not know if they eventually want some more in the future. Well, I Maisie agrees with me here.
Speaker 2:I understand if, why you wouldn't get one just in case, even if you are like dead against having kids they hear some men having like six different people no, some, some people should.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I'm just. Yeah, men, men are worried about losing the control. Sure, by most, I think it all comes down to the fact that men are worried about getting their tiny little penises out. Grow up. If you've already had the kid, you've done the job. It may not be massive, mate, but you filled a pram Well done. Just be a good dad and get your balls snipped so you can focus on the ones you've got. Wow, yeah, there we go. Also, guilt-free cheating you can never get the person you're cheating with pregnant. There you go.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like the last bit you said. Then you say that so many men. Oh, that is so awful.
Speaker 2:So many men get caught up because you know they're having their fun. Then they go and get them pregnant. I don't like this guy.
Speaker 3:Get him a sex with me, guys, so you don't get caught.
Speaker 2:That's why I did it. Oh no, that's not why, I did it. It's not why I did it.
Speaker 3:I'm so sorry well, I've done what I've done.
Speaker 2:I'm happy for you pat on the back and all that.
Speaker 3:Like I said, she's super lucky now because she doesn't need to worry about it. Does she until March?
Speaker 2:I'm going to get a blue plaque on my house, you know.
Speaker 3:So a hero lived here yeah, well, I'm glad you're alright anyway.
Speaker 2:I'm fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 3:I'm all good. Are you back in there now?
Speaker 2:no, I can't. And like I said to you on the, on the video, I've got two weeks of not no heavy lifting, yeah, and basically no working out, because they're like it's just, it's, it's in, it's in the, it's in sweat valley. You know, yeah, the heavy lifting is veins pumping. Sure, something could go, but then, it's in the pits right.
Speaker 2:It's in the bad area of the male body where everything gathers during a workout and if you're going to get an infection and you're just sweating and everything like that, it's going to be gathering in and around your hole, your puncture hole. Yeah, and I don't want an infection. I've seen Requiem for a Dream. I don't.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's heroin, but I just imagine it getting all gangrenous and I'm just like it's just crazy that you've had your two children. That's it now. That's it done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean smashed it with both of them. So job done you know, yeah, you know. So they're all right, they're solid, so we'll go with that job done and um, yeah, now I can just focus on the two I've got yeah, which is lovely yeah because kids do need a lot of attention.
Speaker 2:It's about your whole life and if you have too many, you can't like yeah, you can't give them what they need well, like I'm saying, I know holly's, obviously my sister's got three and like I don't know how she does it, simply I don't know how she does it. I think she does it, but I don't know how.
Speaker 3:Three is okay, I think four gets harder. Five, six, seven like fucking hell I?
Speaker 2:I think I could, I could do it, but, like, at what cost? Like how much? And this is talking about me, not my sister how much would I be able to give these kids, like if I had another one or another two? What dad are they getting? Are they getting the one that's just at the end of his tether because he's got no money? No, he had no sleep, no time, nothing for himself, and he I'm just like a shell. And these kids grow up with a dad that doesn't give them the attention they need, doesn't give them the time, doesn't give them the.
Speaker 2:I get that. You know, I can't afford to send. Like they go to school and there's a school trip coming up and I'm like, well, you know, with old, you know, billy needed, I don't know, a new bike helmet or something I can't afford. That's a bad example. Billy, a new retainer? No, that's free on the NHS. Okay, fuck, billy needed something. That costs a lot of money. So you can't go on that trip now, soz, you know, or it's first come, first serve, or you just have to pick a favourite. You have to go right. We got money for that one and the other three.
Speaker 3:I knew someone what that favoured a child and left them out like favoured them financially, right.
Speaker 2:So they had four kids and when they all got to about, I think they were obviously they didn't all get to five, they didn't have quadruplets, but like by the time they got to five he'd kind of decided whether they were gifted or not, right? Oh so, the first one who got to five, dum-dum, you, you, whatever, move on, I think it was the third kid I hope so.
Speaker 3:He tried to pump not into had a bit about him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know it was. You know, maybe he could build blocks really well. Um, you know, maybe he could say a few french words. It's like oh, hang on. Like me, when I went to my um school interview and the head teacher asked me, like can you count to 10? And I said to her in english or french like what a fucking flex, what an absolute baller did you actually say oh.
Speaker 2:and then when she said, oh, don't worry, um, you can count back backwards from 10 in in english, I got to zero and I will start going minus one, minus two, like what a fucking lad. Like we don't have the confidence to do that right now, but like back then, I was absolutely flexing on my head teacher. So, but yeah, so this guy pumped all his money into the one kid and what happened? How old is he now? He's now, I think he's about 35, something like that.
Speaker 3:And out of all the kids who's doing well.
Speaker 2:Well, two of them are bank. One of them is a banker in London and so is the other one, the gifted one, and the other guy's a banker in London. Are bankers in London, yeah, and I don't know what happened to the other two. Think they're dead? Nah, I don't know, god, I don't know. I dramatically different what happened.
Speaker 2:I mean, maybe you know the one that they sent to private because the other other three went to, uh, state schools. Then the one went to private school and they basically sent him off to boarding school and he was gone, and then basically they just didn't have a, a third brother. That was it like. So there the third kid just was off doing boarding school, going wherever, living the private school life, and they would. They were going to state school, which obviously didn't change much, because the other son that went to state school has got the same job as the one who went to private school. So it's all come out in the wash and they've just invested 400k into the other one. So I don't know if anything you're in maybe you're in a lot more profit with the kid who went to day school, well, of course. So I guess you don't have time, but I think you either have to be able to send them all or none.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you've got to treat your kids equally.
Speaker 2:Because what's that going to do to the kid's psyche?
Speaker 3:You've got to treat them all equally, literally.
Speaker 2:It goes both ways. Because you've got the other three kids were like are we not good enough for like dad to be invested in us? Does he not like rate us? And then the one who is at the private school has all the pressure on as well. To like fuck, I've got to make my investment count tell you what it's hard bringing up kids isn't it.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, especially if you do it like because some people are, they have open favorites, you know, and you, but you have to do the whole thing. You're like brian, you're my favorite daughter, could be my favorite son, you know, that's it. You're the top one son I've got. You know, that's it. I mean, he doesn't know what I'm saying, but you have to, you have to play and there will be days. You know, one will. You will just like the other one more because the other one had a tantrum. You're like, yeah, he was difficult today, but she was lovely. She was difficult today, but he was lovely. You know, it's just all it takes.
Speaker 3:It doesn't scare me that, it's that, you know. As a mum, it would actually terrify me, you know, if I gave birth to a kid to be like that, because I'm too loving him and whatever well, no, no, oh you know, like a child was born and I was like, oh god, I don't like you at all. Well, no, well, to be fair, you can't send them back, can you though?
Speaker 2:I didn't bond I it took me longer to bond with Coop than I did with Bryn and I didn't bond with Bryn for like the first six to eight weeks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that's because guys do find it harder to bond with a child. Because they don't carry the baby, do they no?
Speaker 2:and I've just witnessed what happened, how she got out of there and, like, was worried for Bree. Oh, really you know, I think you carry some of that with you, do you? This you know, this kid, now that you know we're losing sleep over and we're really like fighting to tend to and make sure she's all right has just put the mum absolutely through it and then you see it again and you're like fucking hell, because I've never been through like catastrophe, I've never witnessed anything like that.
Speaker 2:So it was like a, obviously, and it was scarring for me. So God knows what I did, you know, for Brie Fucking hell, so that I think that carries with it and it just took a while. But then that I think that carries with it and it just took a while. But then I think maybe it's also because I'm millennial and I want everything straight away that it's because she wasn't really doing anything. All they're doing when they're first born is just crying and pooing and she's kind of like, yeah, she's cute and everything but fucking hell. And same with Coop. But then when they get something about them, you start to bond, you start to see yourself in them. That is as easy as anything. And, yeah, there are times where you're like, oh God, they are doing my head in, but you still love them. It's just they're doing your nut in, yeah, and that's allowed, and all it takes is I'll tell you what any parent that says they love their kid unconditionally, which we all do.
Speaker 2:But just go on a half-hour car journey when they're nearly at bedtime. It's the fucking worst. One starts crying, the other one's crying because the other one's crying. And so she starts crying. And then we're like Bryn, why are you crying? And she's like Coop is crying, it's loud, it's making me cry. I'm like, no, you don't need to. Coop's crying because you know he's annoying you. And then he's just you're just driving along, you've got happy, you know it, clap your hands playing while it's just like apocalyptic, while these kids are just screaming, and you're just like, ah, and you just try. And then brie and I've just looked at each other before I've been like fucking hell. The biggest moment of it was we came back and it was our first ever meal out with coop. We met with a load of friends, had a lovely meal and on the way back from the meal, brin threw up all over herself in the car and we're about two minutes away from home. So we're like let's just power through, fucking stinks, open a window yeah carry on driving.
Speaker 2:We get back, uh, brin's then sat on our bed. You know we've cleaned her all off and everything. She's had a bath and then she throws up down herself again straight after the bath. And then I was just like flipping heck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's annoying, isn't it?
Speaker 2:She'll have to just fucking bath her now and then again. Yeah, flipping, flip her. Fucking, flipping bath you in. Bathue but it's okay, you're fine. You're fine, I'm not telling you off. Sorry, I'm not pulling on you, I just want to make sure you're okay, but as we're doing this Coop just projectile vomits all over Bree oh shit.
Speaker 3:And then?
Speaker 2:he's crying, bryn's crying because she's covered in sick and Bree's covered in sick. I'm the only one not covered in sick. Actually, I've done all right in the situation. So, yeah, that's the moment where you go Jesus Christ, this is something else. So basically, yeah, you have moments where it's like this is a lot and that's probably what drives you to get a nephrotectomy. But there will be no point where, okay, scratch that. There will be points and there has been points already where we look at our kids and we go, oh, we could, couldn't we, we could have another one. Look at them, they'll be doing something cute. And you go, oh, fucking hell, look at that. Look at them playing. Imagine if they had another one to play with, or something like that. Imagine, like the other night I was. I went every, every night. I'll always go and check on, check on the kids before I go to bed, because I get to, I go to bed slightly later than brie, so brie, brie's asleep. I go and check on coop and then I check on brin oh, and then line.
Speaker 2:They're all snuggly exactly I love you so much and there's, there's the it's. It's such a weird thing and I saw someone did a tiktok video of it, like try and explain this to someone without kids. You're looking at them yeah and then they move slightly and you go like oh, fucking hell, and you're like freezing the spot because you're like shit, shit, shit, don't wake up. Don't wake up. It's crazy. You love them. They're so cute asleep, but please don't fucking wake up, because that's going to be a nightmare for me.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you don't want that. Yeah, it's like in Center Parts when I had Leo in the same room with me.
Speaker 2:It was. I don't want to wake him up. So then I go into Britain and she's having a little nightmare and she's like like having like she's really panting, and she wakes up. She sits bolt upright and she's like her little chest bless her. Like. She's like I'm like I sit down next to her. I'm like, are you okay? And she's and she. She said she gave me the sweetest, like daddy like that and I was like.
Speaker 2:I was like, do you want me to sit with you until you fall asleep again? She was like, yeah, can I have tickles? So I'm, I'm tickling her back and then she is um, just whispering to me because she knows she can't wake up, Coop. So she's like Daddy, we're going on holiday, aren't we?
Speaker 3:We're going on holiday, so cute. And then the first.
Speaker 2:Louis party. And then Santa's coming and she's just like jabbering away and we talk for like half an hour Like a three year old, like she's holding the conversation and she's chatting and chatting and chatting. And I'm like, right, year old, like she's holding the conversation and she's chatting and chatting and chatting, and I'm like, right, we really need to go to bed now. And she went, okay, she's not, it's not, it's still sleep time. And I went, yeah, yeah, still sleep time. And she was like is mommy asleep, is koopa asleep? I'm like, yeah, yeah, still, you still gotta go to sleep. And so I'm tickling her. And then I fully passed out on the floor and then woke up at like half four in the morning.
Speaker 2:I'd fallen asleep my head on a dinosaur still talking to her still talking to her and she'd fallen asleep as well she's, and the only reason I woke up because she's snoring away and then. So I crawl into bed at you know half four, uh, and then I've got I've had a terrible shoulder ever since the other one's fucked, now I've got two bad shoulders and yeah, it was just like such a core memory for me. Now I will always remember that time where, you know, we sat up and had a little late night chat and then she, you know, she fell asleep and it was, it was so nice. And there are the moments you go god, you didn't you. But no, no, no, it's done, done and done.
Speaker 3:It's done, you've done it all Done and done Men.
Speaker 2:Obviously, situation pending, get it done. If your wife's like going to keep taking the pill and her hormones are all over the shop and you're moaning about her hormones but you're not getting the situation sorted, grow up, get in there, get your. I am just sick. I've had people say my husband just won't get it done, he's scared he won't get it done and they've got like three kids already. It's like get it done. That isn't directed at my brother-in-law, by the way. And then I've got other ones. I've had someone say I'm not getting the snip and if you do get pregnant, we're keeping it oh shit, that's a bit harsh.
Speaker 2:That's like no no, no, no.
Speaker 3:That's like, am I the arsehole? Kind of situation.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and I probably should have phrased it. I could have done it, in that I have a sectomy one.
Speaker 3:Yes, we have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so basically, that is it really. That is my big update. I've completely overshadowed my meat and two veg, so what's, what's?
Speaker 3:up with you. That's so important. Is that more important?
Speaker 2:yeah, absolutely okay, well, yeah it's very important and, like I said, the word hero gets thrown around a lot, but here I am living and breathing.
Speaker 3:The only thing I've done this week is put an offering on the house when I thought I was gonna leave derby yeah, when you text me that, I got a bit of whiplash.
Speaker 2:I was like the fuck, are we talking about you just leaving derby? Now you put it. I was like that is the house in America, well, what we're doing. But no.
Speaker 3:I want to get out of this place and the best way to get out of Derby is to buy a house and put my roots in, you know, yeah but the thing is I was out for drinks on a night out and then this girl uploaded some pictures onto Facebook, say on the on the group chat for the estate, and saying I'm gonna look to like sell my house. And this house was beautiful and I thought fuck it. So I messaged about I was a bit drunk. I was like can I come be your house please? And I got she's like yeah, yeah, speak to the estate agents, let's get you booked in. So I did that and then went to view and I finally looked at this house. I was like it's a party house. But I thought, oh, I could live here for two more years if, if, I bought it two more years in Derby. But then, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I had a lot like having to fill in, getting a mortgage in principle, getting my house on the market, getting it valued there was a lot and obviously I really wanted this house because it's in your comfort zone, isn't it? It's easy to stay, it's easy to get a nicer house and just stay.
Speaker 3:That's it. So anyway, long story short, my offer got rejected and she went with the first time buyer because it took quite a lot down. That was quick, yeah, I know. All in the space of a week. Honestly, my emotions were high last week.
Speaker 2:Well, you can live vicariously through me, because I'm going to go look at a house tomorrow, oh no, stop.
Speaker 3:But the thing is I could literally go buy one off the. So there's a state up the road that's got the same house from brand new, but I didn't want that one. I wanted that one and and the girl felt so bad. Bless her. I can really say I know I got a million dollars. She was really nice. He was selling the house and I was like, look, what's meant to be is meant to be. And obviously life does not want me to stay in derby.
Speaker 2:And it's telling me, charlotte, no, you're like charlotte, you can see the whole world. You could indonesia, china, across the road. You know there's all these places you could go, but you like it here a minute. You like it. It's comfy, you love it well, exactly I was thinking.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, it's just, it's easy, isn't it? Sometimes it's easy. What is it change? Fear is change, or something changes fear? I don't know. People hate. That's completely wrong change. Fear is some show people hate change, don't they? They fear it yeah, I think you know, so yeah, but change happens anyway.
Speaker 2:What is good, like if you did move to another place. It's just, it just sets off good, push off foundation to you know, go off and explore some more stuff. I don't know, like, if you set a good base, then you can go from there to go and do stuff.
Speaker 3:What do you mean it?
Speaker 2:doesn't trap you. A house isn't a cage necessarily. It can be like a base, it could be like the foot of Mount Everest, you know.
Speaker 3:You need to have a nice base. That's what I thought. I thought I could rent it out. You know done.
Speaker 2:But that did not want me to do it? Okay, life in your shitty offer, apparently.
Speaker 3:No, I went above I went high, and then someone right at the last minute In this economy. Yeah, Fucking hell. Someone at the last minute just slipped in there. I was like fucking dickheads.
Speaker 2:First time buyer. Fucking, balling Jesus.
Speaker 3:I know it was a couple, isn't it?
Speaker 2:So you know. And also she was like I'm going to go with the first time buyer with the mortgage in hand.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the house is still gonna sell this fucker yeah but it'll be easy, like I get letters through the door saying do you want to say house? Because we're looking oh yeah, everyone gets that letter yeah, but houses go quick, like literally the houses go quick on this estate people want to live here.
Speaker 2:What's?
Speaker 3:happening. So what are you gonna do? Go, rent, go, rent go to your house yeah.
Speaker 2:so I'm gonna go look at a house and we're going to look at options of how to get it and see what we can do, see if we can stretch.
Speaker 3:Where's the house?
Speaker 2:It's basically on our road still but, heading more towards Derby.
Speaker 3:Can't really talk about it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, shit, I'm going to dox myself.
Speaker 3:Here's my Google.
Speaker 2:Maps. Anyway it's not far from our house, it's bigger. It's not far from our house, it's bigger, it's better. It's got a bigger garden.
Speaker 3:It's got a drive and it's cheaper than a house, so no brainer, really good luck.
Speaker 2:So we shall see um, and that that's. That's the big move. Obviously it won't be about christmas, clearly, because I haven't even seen the house yet. Yeah, um, but it's not long on the market. The people who've been there been there 25 years before that, so I reckon it'll probably be one of those ones where you stay in it for a long time, but it's exciting and it is like I love cheap.
Speaker 3:Like when I went into that house for interview, I was like, oh my god, I love this yeah, that's the worst though I honestly fell in love with that house it's a gift and a curse. To be fair, I'm gonna lose out she's on instagram and she's got 20 000 followers from this house she does instagram from her house that she's done it so good she'd be a good podcast studio there yeah, I know I sent you pictures like this could be the funny podcast studio at the at the place I'm seeing tomorrow has got a garden room
Speaker 2:oh podcast podcast garden room yeah see what we do for this podcast we move house, we move house for this podcast. Um, but yeah, that is it. Really. That is the most exciting probably the wrong word exciting thing that happened for me. We've got a guest coming up on the next episode. He is a I don't know local legend. What do?
Speaker 3:you call him. Well, we'll just call it a surprise we'll call it a surprise.
Speaker 2:You'll have to just not dial in dial in fucking hell, how old are you 30, 40 old, 30, 40-year-old fuck you know?
Speaker 3:Dial in Tune in Tune in, tune in for the next one.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Be on our Instagram. 30-year-old 30-year-old I'm excited, obviously. Last week we had our first guest, scotty Boy. That came out.
Speaker 2:So yeah, hope you guys enjoyed it the whole having a guest on.
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