30 Old 30 Young
30 Old 30 Young explores the fascinating contrasts of life in your thirties through the eyes of two cousins living vastly different paths. Join us as we navigate the uncertainties of adult life, from career choices to lifestyle decisions, through both a globetrotting adventurer's and a family-focused perspective.
Our main episodes dive deep into real-life challenges facing thirty-somethings today, while our mini-episodes break down the three best and worst aspects of pivotal adult life scenarios.
Whether you're questioning your life choices, seeking perspective, or just wanting to hear honest conversations about adulting, this podcast offers authentic insights into the beautiful chaos of your third decade. New episodes released weekly, featuring raw discussions about career transitions, relationships, mental health, and the endless quest for work-life balance. Your thirties don't come with a manual - but this podcast comes pretty close.
30 Old 30 Young
Uprooting in your 30’s
Ever felt the urge to just pack up and leave for something new and thrilling? You're not alone. We dive into the millennial itch for adventure, exploring the tantalizing idea of moving to America and the quest for novelty. Through personal tales of travel, we unravel how the initial wonder of new experiences can sometimes fade, yet the longing to find beauty in the mundane remains. Whether it’s chasing sunsets or dreaming of fresh starts, this segment of our chat serves as a gentle nudge to embrace life's opportunities and escape the confines of routine.
As we wrap up, the discussion turns to the courage it takes to step into the unknown, whether it be a move abroad or a simpler countryside life. Through humorous stories and reflections on the joys of becoming a local pub regular, we share insights into finding comfort in change and building resilience through self-discovery. It's all about striking a balance, keeping old friendships alive while forging new ones, and realizing that sometimes, the bravest choice is embracing change for personal growth.
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Two cousins taking different life paths discuss the highs and lows of being in your 30s, and nothing is off limits. This is life in your 30s. This is 30 old, 30 young.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to another installment of 30 Old, 30 Young.
Speaker 3:Hi everyone, just to pre-warn it's bonfire night and the pod dog is a bit growly and bit barky, she's having a bad time. She is not loving it.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:So I'm hoping that she's going to be good, but if you do hear her bark in the background, just ignore her.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do my absolute best to edit it all out, but some might sneak through.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So sorry about that ahead of time.
Speaker 3:So how's your week been? How was your time away? How did it go?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was the first family of four holiday. That's so cute. So we turned up to this apartment up north, up in Bridlington Up north, and it was straight out of the 70s.
Speaker 3:It was like what do you mean what the area?
Speaker 2:No, the area was kind of like a, I don't know like a nicer Blackpool, I think, kind of vibe. Yeah, it was a seaside town. I think all seaside towns for the most part kind of have a similar vibe, especially in the slight off-season.
Speaker 3:I was going to say something then, but I thought maybe not. Why is it? Because it's up north. The beach is up north a bit.
Speaker 2:To be honest, the beach was nice as a callback to one of our previous episodes. My big problem with the beach up north was the fucking dogs what?
Speaker 3:What are you going to say about dogs Off-leash?
Speaker 2:dogs, people had no control over them. One went for Britain no control over them One went for Bryn. No, yeah, fully ran at her barking, leapt to her, look, and I got in between the two of them.
Speaker 3:No, but like, was the dog playing or no?
Speaker 2:barking, like properly going for her, Properly went for her and then the owner like ran up and was like oh, she doesn't buy, it's like I don't know you and it's on. You'll be able to and your daughter's going to be scared absolutely well, and let's face it, this dog was at Bryn's face height, so all it'd take is a quick, quick like moment of it being an animal to sort you know, her face is gone.
Speaker 2:How funny, though, after we were just talking about it, that's it and it happened three times when we were on the beach, the dogs and obviously Brim wants to kind of, she wants to have a little walkabout, so she's like exploring, picking up stones and everything like that, and I've got like I'm about 10 meters away from her, but you know, a dog's going to cover a distance a lot quicker than I'm going to. And there's one fully like was galloping towards her and I ran to her as well. And that was the second time it happened. Then, the third time, this other one went for a remote control car that she had.
Speaker 3:Not the remote control car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like come on, sort your dogs out.
Speaker 3:God that's mad, isn't it they?
Speaker 2:do massive leashes. Put them on a massive leash, put them on a big 50 metre one. Then they can have their little runabout and if they are being a bit of a you wind, that leash in and ever been on a walk with kids before where it's happened.
Speaker 3:It's dead weird because it always seems to happen to you?
Speaker 2:yeah, well, because it's an animal at the end of the day.
Speaker 3:You walk her more, though obviously you live with her, don't you? So when I'm with kids, it's every now and then yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I'm always. I'm always out, gonna be a bit different and I the people that were walking their dogs on the beach on the leash were absolutely fine. Dogs were having a great time.
Speaker 3:They're still going in the water and coming out, but then they weren't getting in my daughter's face, you know bloody hell because it would have been bad, but I would have yeeted that dog across the beach if it went for her to be fair, if it was like, yeah, they went for it for sure oh, god, god, yeah, and there's no like you don't?
Speaker 2:the thing is, the dog owners kind of want you to like just just trust me, just trust me. I know my dog is like yeah, it only takes one time.
Speaker 3:I heard of a woman in my friend's school who got mauled by her dogs.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 3:But then I'm like well, how are you raising them? Because apparently she was doing something slipped over, and then she did something slipped over, and then it went for her. They've been put down now.
Speaker 2:Well, that's it. Um, my friend was telling me about his, his niece. She was playing with the dog that they'd had for like 12 years in the corner, just like playing with her, and just went for her face. They'd had the dog for 12 years what dog was that? I don't know no, that makes any difference, I'm just wondering it was only a little, a little one, a little yappy one, but they're often like the little scrappies, aren't they?
Speaker 3:It's amazing. I know there'll be one in dog owners where I'm like oh, my dog's perfect, but generally she is quite good, like, if kids piss her off, she'll try and get away from them. Or you know, she'll come to me and, like, try and jump up on me and say get me the fuck away from these kids find out, like if you go up to a dog and you just start slapping it around the face and it bites your hand.
Speaker 2:You've earned that mate. That's, you fucked around and you found out. But if you're just walking along a beach and a dog just comes at you, then that dog needs to be just into the sea.
Speaker 3:You know how was your rock thing. You rocked, yeah, yeah once.
Speaker 2:Once we got over the ptsd of the dog. Um, yeah, no, it was good we, we did the. It was like a yeah, no, it was good we, we we did the. It was like a proper. It was like it was basically like a, a mini Cadbury world. Really, oh, cute.
Speaker 2:And they couldn't help, but just they were giving stuff away Like every, every single station. They were like, do you want do decorating with, like a chocolate pumpkin, putting some smiles on it, and stuff like that. And the rock rolling was, yeah, huge bit of rock, though Massive. I thought it was going to be like some little small bit. You do a little roll out, that's great, and then you throw it away.
Speaker 3:How much did you pay for it?
Speaker 2:It was like for all of us to go. It was like 12 quid, is that it? That's it. It was so cheap. This is a gift shop. Yeah, that peanut brittle and Brie wanted a three-foot-tall chocolate Santa. Luckily they didn't have it in stock, because I think it was about 50 quid she makes me laugh honestly.
Speaker 3:She's the luckiest girl, though, because whenever she goes out with your parents or with you guys, she gets it.
Speaker 2:Brie, not Brie.
Speaker 3:Oh, wait what.
Speaker 2:Brie. Brie wanted it oh yeah, my grown wife wanted a three foot Santa to take home and eat.
Speaker 3:Oh, how funny.
Speaker 2:And she nearly. She would have had it if they had it in stock, but thank God they didn't. That's so funny it's weird, because in a million years I wouldn't think she'd want a life-size, not a life-size Santa.
Speaker 3:How big is it?
Speaker 2:About three foot. Yeah, it was about like that big. Yeah, three feet, so like half, because I'm obviously six foot, half the height of me. I'm not six foot, so just a bit over half the height of me, so, yeah, so we nearly came over one of them and I don't even know how we would have got in the car. Did you see the picture of the car?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was round. Did you have to? How long did it take to pack Ages?
Speaker 2:It took so long, did you take?
Speaker 3:too much, though, or not?
Speaker 2:No, no, because it was like no, because we still ended up. I still ended up going to Tesco about five times for stuff that we'd forgotten, because the snacks, I mean these kids eat. I think we went through like 20, 30 pints of milk while we were there.
Speaker 3:These kids are just boshing it um, but how's your week anyway? Yeah, good obviously, as you know, busy, busy.
Speaker 2:I've applied for citizenship in the states of course that was this sweet, wasn't it, jesus?
Speaker 3:yeah, so I've done that. So every year they do like lottery tickets, the visas, it's 55 000 that are allowed to get into, basically applying for the green card, because to get into the USA is so freaking hard. So, yeah, so I've applied for that and I went to Asda and we showed the amount of people that have been applying for this lottery visa and that's just in one area of Derby.
Speaker 2:Big old USA contingent in Spondon.
Speaker 3:That's mad though, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, people have. Really it's mad because you've got the election about to happen.
Speaker 3:I know everything could change.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they could rip up your lottery ticket in front of you when are we going to find out about the elections? Like Thursday, it all depends on state for state, because some states are hand counting them.
Speaker 3:Some states forge them or do something.
Speaker 2:Oh don't you bloody start. You sound like Donald Trump.
Speaker 3:Oh, is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah. When he lost it, oh God, when he lost it, he was like no, it needs a recount. No, blah, blah, blah didn't happen. We got it stolen. China got involved, you know China.
Speaker 3:I can't see that. I'm like buzzing. I'm literally thinking who? Because it's so fine, fine, isn't it? We'll see what happens. So, yeah, I applied for that because, as you know, over the next two years I don't want to be in derby. I'm ready to move on two years.
Speaker 2:Is that the time frame?
Speaker 3:yes okay yeah, so you know, but the only thing is I find so frustrating is now everything's on hold because I'm going to wait to see if I get this green, like this lottery ticket yeah, but they can't.
Speaker 2:It's not, is it? How slow is it?
Speaker 3:the process oh it's slow, you know it's it's a lottery, should they just go?
Speaker 2:you've got one absolutely not.
Speaker 3:It's between like May and September next year so. I feel like everything is on hold, which is so annoying yeah, but the thing is, I might not even get it do you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:The time will pass anyway, so you've done it now.
Speaker 3:I'm like I hate waiting, I'm so impatient, like so impatient.
Speaker 2:Such a millennial, aren't you?
Speaker 3:So yeah, I know, but like I feel like I've been waiting for something to happen for about bloody seven years now.
Speaker 2:You can't wait. You've got to make those things happen, which you've done because you've applied for it Exactly. So it just so happens, because then you probably could have wished that you'd applied last year for it.
Speaker 3:Well, I didn't even know about it, and I didn't even know that America was even on the cards.
Speaker 3:to be honest, I just, you know, when I went away to Italy, I thought to myself, like what do I want from life? And I've never felt like I wanted to settle in Derby, because it's just never felt like home here. I've always, you know, felt like this isn like where do I want to go? And I feel like at the minute, life is at a standstill. So I just thought, oh my god, america would be incredible, like it's massive country it's got everything within it.
Speaker 3:It's English speaking, easy transitions for the most part and then, you know, with the job I do in sales, I could be traveling all across America and the most important thing for me is to, like, I just want to get excited about life and, just you know, have those like wow moments. I get those wow moments by seeing places and that is the one thing I love in life is just seeing new things and getting that feel do you ever get bored in places starving no, no, I mean like, you know, like sorry, I had to it's.
Speaker 2:It's mad how you can get so excited for a trip to somewhere. Then when you get there, it's like at first like oh, wow, and then you kind of go, it's all right, you kind of just get you, the novelty wears off and you're just kind of like when I, when I do the southwest, at first I I thought it was incredible, but then slowly you do get used to it.
Speaker 3:It's like oh well, oh well, I've seen everything now.
Speaker 2:Well, it's familiarity breeds contempt, right, yeah, so you kind of get Well, because I said that when you know, if ever we go somewhere, I'm like, oh, we could move here. It's like, and Brie goes, you still would end up not liking certain aspects of this. Like paradise that you're in because, like that amazing, like there's a um bridge in florida right, it's a seven mile bridge from marathon to the keys, yeah, and it is just that it is seven miles of bridge over the ocean. Yeah, nothing below, well, obviously, the bridge, but like it's just water either side of you and it's incredible and I'm like I love that I could, I could drive that every day. And brie was like you would, you would get bored. You would get bored if that was your commute and you're like fucking got seven miles on this fucking bridge. There's traffic on this bridge, can't do anything about it because it's watery, the side you would learn to dislike.
Speaker 2:However, when we were in paris on I was on a college trip in paris me and two of the my friends were talking about like we're taking the. I remember that we're taking the charles de gaulle line, which goes wrapped around, and there's a real, really good moment where, through the buildings you keep seeing like glimpses of the eiffel tower, like as the buildings move out the way, south tower, and it looks great and it's a really cool video, and I went, yeah, but when you get bored of that being your like, would you not get bored of it? Because you know if you've got to walk past the Eiffel Tower, you're probably going to get stuck in with a load of tourists. You'd probably learn to hate the Eiffel Tower. And this ethereal French woman came out of nowhere and she was like absolutely not, you're wrong to think this. And we were like, oh shit yeah, but that's it though.
Speaker 3:It's like on the back of where I live. There's like they get the most beautiful sunset every time I see it. I can drive home sometimes and I see it's good sunset. I'm actually running, get the dog and go onto the back and every time.
Speaker 2:You love a sunset, don't you, little pink?
Speaker 3:sky. Oh, honestly, I love it, yeah, and every time I see it I get that same like oh my god, wow.
Speaker 3:But I just think you ever heard that saying that like your future self is somewhere and that's why you want something so bad and I feel like yes, I quote, and it's like I feel that in derby, like I don't feel this is home, because I know one day this isn't going to be home. I feel like there's other places and to never. Like I was speaking to one of my great aunts like oh yeah, we wanted to move to portugal, and they are always on about moving places, like always on about it, but they never did. They've always stayed in Gloucestershire, don't get me wrong. It's the most beautiful place in the UK to me. But I don't know. Like I feel like you've got to take these chances, because for me it's just something that I desire, like desire like some people. It's not like. Some people are quite happy, you know they've got their like home.
Speaker 2:They feel it's home. Well, it's not. You can do one of two things you can be shaped by countries that you get to go to, or you can shape the one you're in right so you can make the impact in the space you're in and people you know thrive in a local setting and like love that smaller scale stuff. Because, like, let's face it, if you go and travel, travel the world, you go to every single country. You will have been to all those countries. They would have had an impact on you, but you wouldn't have necessarily had an impact on them we never know.
Speaker 3:You touch your lights on no, no, yeah, you might.
Speaker 2:You'll meet people and they'll remember you, but, like the, the nature, but you are, you will just be passing through, right, you won't put down roots, you won't, until you really stop somewhere, and then you'll start to make an impact and that will become your local impact. Then there'll be people where you stop that can't wait to get out of that place, of course, and then that's the same thing. So it's a kind of greener situation, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah. But then I look at Alice and obviously she was like I want to get out of derby. She's in italy and honestly she is so happy she is just meant to be there. And it's like, you know, I was talking to my friend emma the other day and I was like sometimes it can be like a, not a curse, but you know, when you see there is so much more to life than just this little place where you live in, where you live constantly, then she was like, oh, I know, I don't get it. Then she went away to somewhere near cornwall in plymouth and she was like charlotte, you know, there was so much to do, it was so much more vibrant, people were out doing things. And she has I said to kyle, I want to move here and I'm like there you go m's.
Speaker 3:That's what, how I feel like I've seen there's so much more out there and it's like for me it's just the weather, like it depresses me, like it's continuously gray. You know people here. It's very like I don't know because it's everyone's very like in you're not thinking there's like a culture here yeah, of course there is a culture everywhere, isn't there.
Speaker 3:But I just feel like I want to be a bit more outdoorsy. Just many more things to do. I want to be by the ocean and I want to experience around people who are not like me, who are different. That's gonna, you know, make me see a different way of life. You know, when I'm walking there's a different sort of accent, like for me. That would fulfill me because I'm like you know, I've done more with my life, but that's just how I look at it, and they know it's all different. There's nothing wrong, you know, if you were brought up in derby and you're happy here and you love it, well, that's good. But we're not all the same, all different, aren't?
Speaker 2:we plus. The good thing as well, with travel being an ambition, is for the most part, obviously money pending. It's quite easy, you can. It is quite achievable. If you want to go and travel, you can just go and try, especially in your situation. You can just kind of go and travel. It's like it's not like you have a you. Your dream is to I don't know go to the moon yeah, that's a hard one.
Speaker 2:That's a hard one. You know you've got a. Really either you've got loads of different, or you want to be a part, like be a pilot or something like you traveling. You can just go and then you've done it. You've just go and then you've done it. You've done the traveling straight away, you've ticked it off, and it's like one of those really good instant gratification dream to have Because you just go, I want to go traveling. You book a flight, you fuck off, you're doing it. Happy days, you're on it, and then, while you're doing it, you're doing it. It's not one of those things that when you get it, it's done, you get to carry on doing it.
Speaker 3:The thing is you never see anyone unhappy sat on a beach.
Speaker 2:Not really Well it depends, it might be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but when you go travelling, you know and I've been travelling before and you've got people they all are so happy. I remember where's I go, but are they on holiday or are they working? Because the unhappy people on the beach are the people that are working. Well, I don't know, because when I went to sri lanka, for instance, you know all the guys had the service and stuff.
Speaker 3:Obviously they live there. Yeah, they absolutely love it. They're like what, how could, what can I not love? Every day, I wake up to paradise and I'm I'm teaching people to surf. It's a great, it's a great life that is.
Speaker 2:And then I would say, shout out to a guy called jack fleetwood hey, jack, I follow him on instagram. He's a beautiful irish man and he boggles my mind about his timeline of how he does stuff, but he is just all over the place all the time and like he'll be like, oh, I've just um, just woken up in a, uh, the back of my jeep in botswana or something like that, and then he'll be, he runs surf camps.
Speaker 2:So he'll. He'll run the surf camps for like a season and then piss off and go explore all the countries around it. Then he'll start up a surf camp somewhere else, run a surf camp and then piss off and explore all the places around it and because of a huge instagram problem, he's making some good spondoolies. So he's doing fine, just to explore, but he's doing it where he is. I think I don't know if it's all men or men and women really is. At one point in your life you do go. Oh, I could just run a bar on a beach, a little, just a little, just a little simple bar on the beach. That sounds lovely, good, yeah, and you kind of go. But then you have to, in that way of being like I could just run a bar on a beach, I could just run a baker in an italian city, I could just run. You are kind of doing although your setting's different, you kind of are doing a small, small town life. It's just not in the town you're from yeah, but then you've got gorgeous weather.
Speaker 3:I think the weather impacts so much. You can do so much more outside of it work and that side of it isn't really part of it.
Speaker 2:it's what you can do so much more outside of it Work, and that side of it isn't really part of it. It's what you can do outside of work. And if work suddenly becomes a thing that you only do to kind of like cover some of the bills that you've got because life's a lot cheaper to live and so you're not working as long and you've got a lot more time to do stuff, then you fucking qu know what right you know when I go horse riding not that I'd go very often, I probably but no, like when you go horse riding, right what the fuck do you go horse riding?
Speaker 3:well, that's probably not been for two years, but whenever I do right, you go on these horses, they all do the same trail and you know what? Half the horses are asleep.
Speaker 2:They're so fucking bored of the same old trail it's a rat race, isn't it but, and but you put them into a brand new field and they're fucking like a crazy.
Speaker 3:Or you go into a different thing and they're like whoa, and suddenly they're alive. That is me, this is how I feel. I just feel like I'm just like oh, I just love that feeling when you see something and just inside just feel there's so much happiness because you just and it's not so much like just seeing some beautiful things, I love that it's.
Speaker 2:The problem is with it is you will always and I'm talking probably for myself here more than anything, and from what I've heard from other people is you will always put roadblocks in its way. Stop yourself from doing it, because you will always look at well, what we have here is this, this and this, and we have this and this and this, and you look at all the kind of like comforts that the place that you are offers you and against all the unknowns that this other place has 100% yeah.
Speaker 2:And you kind of go oh, let's wait until this point, let's wait until this point, let's wait. And you just keep waiting and keep waiting, and keep waiting. Well, let's wait until the kids are 18.
Speaker 3:And then you can look at it. Well, that's a fear that holds you back, but then, when you do it, you realize how much happiness actually will come from it.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, Because when I went to Hungary and I went to my granddad's hometown I felt like a true link to it, Did you? I really felt like hang about, like something's here.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:That's how I feel in the cosmos, andolds, yeah and it really it doubled down in a place called Abiligeti, which is like, which I liked because it sounds Italian, but it's in the south of Hungary and it was just perfect. It was like these pristine lakes, oh wow. And it was all very, very quiet. Even season it was still very quiet. But like everyone was kind of it just felt like you were stepping back into like the 60s or something it was all very like wholesome well.
Speaker 3:So you found it felt like a film set, but it felt like home, yeah so much so that we went looking for real estate.
Speaker 2:We went like dad and I were like, right, how do we do this? How do we get across it? How do we get a holiday home?
Speaker 3:see, this is what I mean, and maybe the reason I feel like how I do is because I wasn't born in Derby. I know, I've pretty much been brought up here but, as I said, I fit in so much more with the people down south Like I do feel I could do fit in a bit more with them, but I don't know, and it's also like I just feel so claustrophobic. I just feel so claustrophobic, I just feel so claustrophobic.
Speaker 2:It's the humdrum, isn't it? It's when you're doing the same thing every day, over and over again.
Speaker 3:I just think the UK is so small. I literally feel claustrophobic. I go in my back garden and I've said this before I'm like is this it? I've paid so much fucking money for this house. Is this all I get? I can't swing a cat back, still paying for it.
Speaker 2:That's the thing that gets you. It's not like you've paid out. That's still coming out of the account, isn't it?
Speaker 3:well, exactly, and then you've got. You know, in these bigger countries that want more land, the space is so much more that my friend in Italy I've said many times before. She's got so much more land and if you go to America. I want to look out, have a boat, be near the water, you know, be around some Americans. I love that American accent.
Speaker 2:You do, I do.
Speaker 3:And I've always dreamed of being with an American, actually.
Speaker 2:Oh well, that's a place to find one.
Speaker 3:And you dreamt of like Pocahontas and got with Brie. Pocahontas you just look a bit like Pocahontas. You used to fancy it when you were younger. Do you check it? Brie's got some native american in her. I don't think so. Well she does.
Speaker 2:She looks like her. She's got the dark features. She does, she does, she does. Um, yeah, she does. It's her italian heritage that gives her the she's got very like. Yeah, cynthia's side is italian. Oh my god. So literally brie just has to look, see that it's sunny outside and she tans like three shades. I'm like and I turn into like garlic mayonnaise. It's a joke, I'm absolute gammon but no, so yes I get it.
Speaker 2:I get it, I do, I do get it, but obviously if you are fully on board with the moving away, like if I was to be like I'm fully on board with moving away, but I've also got to realize that I just cannot I'm shitting it how are you?
Speaker 3:oh my god, absolutely, I'm, absolutely, I'm gonna move somewhere. Yeah you, oh my God, absolutely, I'm, absolutely, I'm going to move somewhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're going to know no one. I don't know anyone, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I'm not near family. You know I'm going to be on my own, yeah, but life has taught me loneliness and I've learned to sit with it and be able to manage it. So it's given me all the live equipment and obviously we can still do this podcast, because we can do it of course, don't worry everyone we're still don't worry I'm just bringing more content to it sure, yeah, seeing if it's like gonna make it or not, but yeah, that's it well to be fair, in like a tenuous link to what we're talking about, like the idea of do you like making new friends and all of that?
Speaker 2:obviously, like in your 30s now, do you think you will be able to like? Will you like put yourself in like maybe a gym or something like that, or maybe a I don't know a certain class, or like to kind of meet people, and or are you just kind of go it alone and you kind of see people on the way?
Speaker 3:it's hard, though, to make friends oh my god, of course it's like I think I'd join a gym and you know the friends I've already got like. Look at alice. She left the uk many, many years ago and I'm still best friends with her to this day, that is, she could have may as well been lived down the street and you know, you do hope to meet someone. You know, if I get into a relationship I'd obviously meet, because right now I don't want to have a relationship in derby. That's what's holding me back. It's not americans.
Speaker 3:They're not american, no, it's not even so much american. I just don't want to settle here and I'm just not interested. So you know, yeah, you just meet people, don't you? And I always feel like if you're brave enough to go after what you want, life will give you they want. And the only reason I'm saying that is because I know I've had it proven so many times that I've taken so many leaps of faith, not knowing where it's going to take me, and I've done it and I've always had things happen that I'm like wow have they always been good though?
Speaker 3:um, yeah because sometimes a leap of faith like when I, when I walked out of relationship because I wasn't happy, and you know this child I am today, my god, she's like the woman I always aspired to be, or like, wanted to. You know, when you're a kid I am that person.
Speaker 2:It sounds very cringe but you know, like the woman who you want to save you as a child, I have become that well, that's good and that's obviously because I've taken that leap and have you always wanted, like to get out like a long time yeah, and I was saying this to someone the other day.
Speaker 3:It's just because when I was a kid, I always thought I was going to go back to gloucestershire to be down south. But as I've got older, you know it could potentially happen. I might not get this visa and I might move back down to cotswolds. I have no idea what is going to happen, but I just know I'm giving myself two years and that is it, because I don't want to be here in five years when I'm turning 40. But I'm still here now.
Speaker 2:I'd be so disappointed in myself yeah, if you get, if you get to 40, you're still here. You're basically here till 80, aren't you? Well, no, I'm just like, I'm just you're locked in, you're not actually allowed to leave. Once you've stayed here at 40, that's it exactly. It gets a lot harder the older you get oh god, yeah, and who knows, you might have a kid by then, absolutely not I'm locking myself away, I don't know you might pop over to America, meet an American and bring them back well, you don't know what happens, but I know right now I've just got to go.
Speaker 2:You've got to go see that's it done, because you've got to know yeah that's your catchphrase. You've got to go because you've got to know. Look at that, someone make that into a song. Be number one. No, I get it. And part of me sometimes just goes oh, shall we just go sell up and buy a chalet in france and just lead a quiet little life with goats and grow our own stuff and live off the land?
Speaker 3:but then I don't know enough about any of it, so we'll probably poison the family the only thing is it would be very nice to not have such a chaos, like chaotic place, like it's very in the uk.
Speaker 2:You are always very much on the grind and you are yeah, but would you not get like, would you not get bored though?
Speaker 2:I don't know, like, look at the Italians, they just yeah, you find comfort in your boredom a little bit, or you just go, you go be bored with people, yeah, but are they bored? No, I'm saying like if you're down time, like you go do nothing with people love doing that. Like the last few times I've been going to the pub we've kind of it's not been an event, it's just kind of been. And this I never thought I'd be that pub guy. That just goes well, I'm at what? I go to one pub and that is it. But I never thought I'd be like, because I've always wondered, like what do they do in the pub, when people would go like every day after work, or they just go, when they just what, they just talk and then get, have a few pints and then go home. That can never be me. But now, having done it a few times, you know you do talk about nothing. Occasionally you hit on some stuff and then you play some darts, maybe some pool, and then you pop on home.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's nice. Yeah, it's whatever made you happy, if you're comfortable, kind of doing nothing with people.
Speaker 2:They're good people to be around, and especially if they're also people that you can do stuff with, so you've got the best of both worlds with them. It doesn't always have to be a big event do you know?
Speaker 3:I'd love to do that be in a bar in america and be on my own and go, you know, when you see the movies. Yeah, and they order a drink.
Speaker 2:I'm guys on my bucket list you want to order a drink at a bar in new york, not in new y, but in America somewhere. Do you remember? You know Love Actually when.
Speaker 2:Colin Frizzle goes across to America, oh yes, to meet, and he just goes. It's the British accent, you know blah, blah, blah. American women are so much more attractive than English women, all that lot. I was in a bar in Wisconsin and it was the same situation. Three, this is years ago. I wasn't actually allowed to be in the bar, I was just 18. But because my dad was there, he was allowed to vouch for me that I could be in the bar and I was allowed to drink in some Wisconsin law because they love a drink in Wisconsin. And there was three women at this place a blonde, a brunette and a redhead. Literally like the same situation. My dad was like you've got to go over, you've got to do like.
Speaker 3:a Well, you did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we sat and it was the same thing. They were like what do you call that? And I'd say it in my English accent, and they'd like laugh and be like oh, do you reckon, guys, they're the same?
Speaker 3:do you think they love an English accent?
Speaker 2:guys will love any woman to come over and talk to them. So yeah, men, doesn't matter what accent you've got, they will always be happy to have a woman present. For sure you go to a little American bar, find some little dive bar, I would. I would have suggested Rudy's in New York, but you're a vegetarian so it wouldn't really resonate with you, because when you order a beer they give you a hot dog.
Speaker 3:No it doesn't resonate with me at all, but that's cool, although I missed it. In New York we did go into a bar in a pub and I did actually feel quite scared but you will do, because there's dive bars where some bars in America.
Speaker 2:They're not other stuff that you're after it was great.
Speaker 3:It's in the nicer places, is it Greenwich?
Speaker 2:Greenwich Village.
Speaker 3:Greenwich Village so I needed a wee and I went to this bar. It was very dark and I just felt so uneasy in this bar sometimes the vibes are off and you just go.
Speaker 2:This seems like especially when you it's like when you go into a pub in like some little town in england and when you walk in everyone have you not, where everyone just kind of looks at you.
Speaker 3:You're not from around these parts, yeah I've had that hot fuzz, but he's kind of settling, don't you? But I've never felt uneasy in the bar or pub in derby or in england.
Speaker 2:Really, yeah, I've always felt fine that that's mad. Have you ever been to any sleazy bars in England? Any like crazy Derby fan bars on a game day? Oh of course. Are there ones where I'm like I?
Speaker 3:never felt like I did that day in New York.
Speaker 2:The worst experience I had was in Portugal and it was kind of so. What was happening was that Forest Nottingham Forest were doing their international tour and they were playing a game in Portugal against, I don't know, probably Porto maybe, but they were playing in Albufeira, where we were, and all the Forest massive or whatever they're called. The hooligans were in this one bar, they had their bar and then the Portuguese had this other bar and we were in the Forest bar and I don't know football really and I don't know any forest songs, but all they were doing was singing these forest songs. So and the chanting and all that a lot, and they were sitting and blah, blah. So I had to like pretend to fit in and so I was just going as I was singing, I was going like because I was a bit drunk anyway, and this guy grabbed me by the throat, this forest unit, and just went you fuck off. And I was like, oh yeah, see you in a bit.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's probably the most uneasy I felt. Oh, actually there was another time People keep strangling me in bars. There was another time that I was in Greece and Jack and I my friend who I was with we were like 16 in a nightclub that we shouldn't have been in and we were dancing with these two ladies that we didn't realise were of the night and so and you know, they were kind of like entertaining it or whatever and kind of probably they had like a long game, like if I leave these guys on enough, I can probably get a bit of money out of them, and you know, game respects game and all that so. But I guess the pimp wasn't too happy about it, because we were dancing and suddenly, out of nowhere, I went from being right behind her to up against the wall and the guy was just had his hands on my throat. I was like, alright, guess, that's home time see you later.
Speaker 3:Shit, that's mad, isn't it? Yeah? But how are you? Did you know they were prostitutes?
Speaker 2:no, they seem. They seem very approachable. Why did they do that? They seem like lovely ladies. Why did they?
Speaker 3:do that?
Speaker 2:yeah, I know I was a potential customer why would you ask? Nah, you don't pay for it, do you? You're gross I have nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 3:It's the world's oldest profession wow, I love, yeah, so that's where I love what you're like constitution, I love it anything else on where to live in your 30s?
Speaker 2:where to live in your 30s? Wherever's home, I guess that's where I live 100%. That's it for tonight yeah, that's it for tonight. The fireworks haven't been too bad. Maisie's been great. Yeah, thanks, I'll edit out any barks that have snuck in, but I think she's been alright. She maybe licked herself a bit loudly on the chair a while ago, so I'll edit that out.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry for the sound effects if it comes through.
Speaker 2:I reckon it will. He was properly cleaning. So yeah, we will see you next week. We have a man, a myth, a legend. I'm saying that because I don't actually know who he is, but we'll talk to him.
Speaker 3:We've got our first guest. We've got our first guest. I'm so excited. Yes, can't wait to speak to him. He's going to be a good one.
Speaker 2:And he's going to cover all manner of topics.
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